The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • imanihonjin
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3772

    #5581
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    You are forgetting that these massive Trump wins are an optical illusion--a thin slice of the American electorate is carrying him to the nomination. I continue to submit that this is a catastrophe for the Republican party (a long time coming, self-induced, and in retrospect totally understandable), but not the nation--this exposing of the Republican Party's turn to the dark side may be good for the country. I predict that Hillary is going to wallop him.
    Way to go out on a limb there.

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69407

      #5582
      Boom!

      https://www.ksl.com/?sid=38970451&nid=960

      If Donald Trump becomes the Republican Party's nominee, Utahns would vote for a Democrat for president in November for the first time in more than 50 years, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69407

        #5583
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • PaloAltoCougar
          Semper infra dignitatem
          • Nov 2008
          • 16908

          #5584
          Donald and Melania Trump remind me of Modern Family's Jay and Gloria Pritchett. But I'd expect Jay to remain faithful longer than would Donald. I'm also disappointed in myself that the current race has reduced me to thinking about such things.

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          • Topper
            Pre-Historic Man
            • Nov 2011
            • 11764

            #5585
            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
            I agree with you. That said, I've been completely wrong from day one about how Trump would be received. There are so many wild cards in this thing that it's tough to be certain about anything that happens in November.
            I never thought Trump would get this far and predict a lousy, corrupt candidate will whallop him. I am closing my ears to the sound of "mandate". Hopefully the GOP hangs on to enough seats to be able stop her every move.
            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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            • Paperback Writer
              Signature won a Pulitzer
              • Nov 2010
              • 5211

              #5586
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Boom!

              https://www.ksl.com/?sid=38970451&nid=960

              If Donald Trump becomes the Republican Party's nominee, Utahns would vote for a Democrat for president in November for the first time in more than 50 years, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll.
              Something else to consider: In the 1992 election Bill Clinton finished third in Utah. Yes third! Ross Perot received more votes than Bill Clinton. And now, Hillary Clinton would top Donald Trump in 2016 in Utah.
              “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
              "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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              • Dwight Schr-ute
                Members Only
                • May 2011
                • 4917

                #5587
                I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69407

                  #5588
                  John Kasich out.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • BlueK
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 7109

                    #5589
                    So does Trump drop out and officially hand it to Hillary before, at or after the Republican convention?

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                    • Nakoma
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 571

                      #5590
                      Blame GOP primary voters for Trump. We have met the enemy and it is us. Despite splitting the vote among a 1/2 dozen opponents through many of the early states, Trump still accumulated more votes than Romney. How is this possible? A significant block of GOP voters are idiots.

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                      • SCcoug
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 7625

                        #5591
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        If Gary Johnson is smart he'll park himself in Utah to campaign for the next 6 months. The Libertarians could actually win some electoral votes and maybe parlay that into becoming a credible 3rd party.

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                        • Goatnapper'96
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10909

                          #5592
                          Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                          Blame GOP primary voters for Trump. We have met the enemy and it is us. Despite splitting the vote among a 1/2 dozen opponents through many of the early states, Trump still accumulated more votes than Romney. How is this possible? A significant block of GOP voters are idiots.
                          One of the reasons is he excites them so turnout is higher. I don't like Donald Trump and he doesn't appeal to me but I think his appeal is far more widespread than many of us can grasp. He is putting together a coalition of the angry. I don't think people make good decisions when they are angry but Donald does a good job of assigning blame for people's woes to both the left and the right. If he is going to win, which I wouldn't think is possible but this cycle is strange, the coalition piece that will push him over are those fed up with the absurd. It just strikes me as fiercely coincidental that those who comprise the fed up with the absurd coalition look to Donald Trump for deliverance - but as I said this cycle appears strange to me.
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

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                          • Northwestcoug
                            Cocked and Loaded
                            • May 2011
                            • 17881

                            #5593
                            Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                            So does Trump drop out and officially hand it to Hillary before, at or after the Republican convention?
                            You and my wife think alike.
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                            - SeattleUte

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                            • YOhio
                              Hipster Mode
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 26165

                              #5594
                              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                              One of the reasons is he excites them so turnout is higher. I don't like Donald Trump and he doesn't appeal to me but I think his appeal is far more widespread than many of us can grasp. He is putting together a coalition of the angry. I don't think people make good decisions when they are angry but Donald does a good job of assigning blame for people's woes to both the left and the right. If he is going to win, which I wouldn't think is possible but this cycle is strange, the coalition piece that will push him over are those fed up with the absurd. It just strikes me as fiercely coincidental that those who comprise the fed up with the absurd coalition look to Donald Trump for deliverance - but as I said this cycle appears strange to me.
                              Would make me feel a helluva lot better if you were predicting a Trump victory.

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                              • SeattleUte
                                Faith crisis consultant
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 20837

                                #5595
                                The NY Times says Trump is ahead of Clinton in Utah.

                                http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...=top-news&_r=0
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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