The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • SCcoug
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 7625

    #7426
    So when does the new Federalist party start? There has never been a better time for a 3rd party to emerge and join or kill one of the big 2.

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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 37882

      #7427
      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      This is a funny juxtaposition:

      The shouter is Esperanza Matamoros, tiny, seventeen years old. The crowd now halts her forward progress, so she judiciously spins and, still shouting, heads toward the exit. As she passes a tall, white-haired, professorial-looking old man, he gives her a little shove. He towers over her, the top of her head falling below his armpit. She could be his daughter, his granddaughter, his favorite student. Another man steps in front of her to deliver an impromptu manners lesson; apparently, she bumped him on her way up. “Excuse me,” he says heatedly. “Around here, we say excuse me.”
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • YOhio
        Hipster Mode
        • Nov 2008
        • 26165

        #7428
        One of the more interesting dynamics over the past few days is to see leftists suddenly concerned about Kremlin trolls and Russian intelligence attempting to influence the U.S. First off, I want to welcome our newfound McCarthyites. Second, I have bad news. Wikileaks isn't an isolated incidence of foreign actors attempting to influence U.S. policy.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

        http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

        http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...eign-donations

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        • Topper
          Pre-Historic Man
          • Nov 2011
          • 11764

          #7429
          Originally posted by YOhio View Post
          One of the more interesting dynamics over the past few days is to see leftists suddenly concerned about Kremlin trolls and Russian intelligence attempting to influence the U.S. First off, I want to welcome our newfound McCarthyites. Second, I have bad news. Wikileaks isn't an isolated incidence of foreign actors attempting to influence U.S. policy.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

          http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...eign-donations
          Don't worry they will ignore those as much ado about nothing. It only matters when their opponent has a conflict.
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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          • HuskyFreeNorthwest
            Time to camp
            • Nov 2008
            • 26082

            #7430
            I hope the FBI finds a reason to prosecute someone over the DNC emails.
            Get confident, stupid
            -landpoke

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27806

              #7431
              Originally posted by YOhio View Post
              One of the more interesting dynamics over the past few days is to see leftists suddenly concerned about Kremlin trolls and Russian intelligence attempting to influence the U.S. First off, I want to welcome our newfound McCarthyites. Second, I have bad news. Wikileaks isn't an isolated incidence of foreign actors attempting to influence U.S. policy.

              http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

              http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

              http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...eign-donations
              “We’re not trying to hide anything.”
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Topper
                Pre-Historic Man
                • Nov 2011
                • 11764

                #7432
                Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                Transparency is Hillary's middle name.
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • wuapinmon
                  Soul Plumber
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 30711

                  #7433
                  This could be really good if he actually answers.

                  "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                  The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                    Time to camp
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 26082

                    #7434
                    Reddit represents the worst of people on the interwebs, the corner of idiocy and hate. He'll probably be made their king.
                    Get confident, stupid
                    -landpoke

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                    • PaloAltoCougar
                      Semper infra dignitatem
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 16917

                      #7435
                      My nephew posted this article with the note: Trump, explained. (You only need to read the headline.) If only Rubio had had this information a few months ago.

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                      • Bo Diddley
                        Senior
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 18720

                        #7436
                        Originally posted by Topper View Post
                        Everybody is thinking in binary terms, this or that.

                        If we engineered a proper third party candidate, and there is still time, Jill Stein for Bernie's Group, and Gary Johnson for the more conservative ones, we would be able to force a true Convention of the Electoral College and free ourselves from the lunacy of Hillary or Donald.

                        Think outside the box. I like the write-in idea, but they won't count the votes. Pick one where they do count the votes so that the votes count.
                        Originally posted by Topper View Post
                        And I want to vote for the candidate who most closely has the qualifications for the job who is on the ballot. Neither Hillary nor Donald are qualified as a person or in experience. If I were forced to have only those two options, I would not vote, as neither deserves to receive a vote and None of the Above would receive my vote.

                        I agree that Donald is unqualified and the only place where he would be demonstrably better is in the selection of the US Supreme Court justices. Anybody actually contemplating Hillary is blind. She is equally unworthy and incompetent.
                        It seems you're hoping for a third option. You probably need to come to terms that there won't be.

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                        • frank ryan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12273

                          #7437
                          Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                          One of the more interesting dynamics over the past few days is to see leftists suddenly concerned about Kremlin trolls and Russian intelligence attempting to influence the U.S. First off, I want to welcome our newfound McCarthyites. Second, I have bad news. Wikileaks isn't an isolated incidence of foreign actors attempting to influence U.S. policy.

                          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

                          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us...tion.html?_r=0

                          http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...eign-donations
                          I've never liked Putin. So don't call me a newfound mccarthyite. No one said it was the first time a foreign actor did so but it is one of the most-aggressive and alarming.

                          Don't forget topper would actually prefer Putin to Obama or Clinton, he's said so in the past.

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                          • Topper
                            Pre-Historic Man
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11764

                            #7438
                            Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                            It seems you're hoping for a third option. You probably need to come to terms that there won't be.
                            This is akin to asking the question: Do you want to be shot in the heart or the head by a .45 handgun?

                            Which do you select? Through the temple or through the heart?
                            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                            • SCcoug
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7625

                              #7439
                              Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                              Reddit represents the worst of people on the interwebs, the corner of idiocy and hate. He'll probably be made their king.
                              It looks to be held on /r/The_Donald so he's probably already been coronated on that subreddit.

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                              • Bo Diddley
                                Senior
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 18720

                                #7440
                                Originally posted by Topper View Post
                                This is akin to asking the question: Do you want to be shot in the heart or the head by a .45 handgun?

                                Which do you select? Through the temple or through the heart?
                                We have enough checks in place that I don't think it will be a fatal shot.

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