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  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    he isnt fit to be president, but one should be able to go to his rally without any fear of getting attacked
    I agree on both counts. Still, being the attention hound Trump is, I think he welcomes the protests and the concomitant publicity.

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    • My Drumpf Rant o' the Day:

      Even many Trump supporters blush at his nutty/impossible/damaging statements (e.g., torturing terrorist suspects, murdering terrorists' families, 30-45% tariff on China, 50 ft. wall, changing libel laws, terminating NATO, nukes to Saudi Arabia, Korea, Japan, etc.), but such supporters reassure themselves by believing he'll surround himself with trained experts ("the best!") who will act as guardrails to keep those kind of lunacies in check.

      I'm curious how one explains his comments about the "Mexican" judge, born in Chicago, who Trump thinks should be compelled to recuse himself in the Trump University fraud case. I'm certain that Trump's lawyers (one assumes that if asked, Trump would describe his attorneys as "the best, the very best, believe me") have told him repeatedly NOT to comment on the case, much less on the judge, as such comments can only hurt their case. Trump has chosen to ignore them, although it may hurt the thing he holds most dear: his wallet. How closely will he follow the admonitions of experts on matters of lesser importance to him, like national security or the general welfare? So much for the guardrails. But again, as Trump has said, "You think I'm going to change? I'm not going to change."

      BTW, I doubt there's a single federal judge who thinks Trump has a good point here. Run Mitt, Run!

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        I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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        • Fantastic. http://triblive.com/mobile/10570197-...nichols-voters

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          • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
            Saw news footage of the protestors (anti Trump) last night in San Jose. Why do you think the hateful and mean people that support Trump aren't doing the same thing at Hillary rallies?
            Trump purposely schedules his rallies in parts of town where he knows he'll attract a lot of protesters. He does that because he hopes some kind of violence will break out. He thinks that helps him.

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            • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
              Trump purposely schedules his rallies in parts of town where he knows he'll attract a lot of protesters. He does that because he hopes some kind of violence will break out. He thinks that helps him.
              IF that is true, then Trump is a lot smarter than the protestors.

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              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                Trump purposely schedules his rallies in parts of town where he knows he'll attract a lot of protesters. He does that because he hopes some kind of violence will break out. He thinks that helps him.
                Ehhh. dunno about that. He scheduled his AZ appearance in Sheriff Joe's cushy Fountain Hills. If he was hardcore he would have scheduled the rally on the West side.
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                  Ehhh. dunno about that. He scheduled his AZ appearance in Sheriff Joe's cushy Fountain Hills. If he was hardcore he would have scheduled the rally on the West side.
                  well, not necessarily every single time. But look at where his chicago rally was set (at the ultra liberal U of Chicago campus). That was the one where he knew half the venue was filled with anti-Trump people. There are many other possible venues in the Chicago area located closer to the neighborhoods where Trump would naturally have more supporters. He let everyone file in and then he cancelled his appearance at the last second, leaving happy protesters and angry supporters. Great conditions for violence, I'd say. And some violence did break out. Maybe my opinion is too cynical for some of you, I guess.

                  Then again most recently in San Jose it was located in an area where lots of Latino protesters should have been anticipated.
                  Last edited by BlueK; 06-06-2016, 12:01 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    IF that is true, then Trump is a lot smarter than the protestors.
                    I never said he wasn't smart. He's completely devoid of morals, but he's not unintelligent.

                    Let me put it this way: you seem to have been persuaded to lean in his direction, and based on what you have stated is your opinion of protesters in general, Trump seems to get your vote in large part because the protests remind you of what you don't like about his opposition. So logically it is in Trump's best interest for protesting to continue because there are a lot of (I would guess mostly older, conservative leaning) voters out there just like you who have their own issues with Trump, but if he can appear to folks like you to be the law and order type guy, you might be persuaded to give up on your reservations and vote for him.

                    Also, if you know anything about the shady past of Trump's manager, Cory Lewandowski, this is anything but something beneath the Trump campaign.
                    Last edited by BlueK; 06-06-2016, 11:59 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                      Trump purposely schedules his rallies in parts of town where he knows he'll attract a lot of protesters. He does that because he hopes some kind of violence will break out. He thinks that helps him.
                      Protesters are doing Trump a huge favor. It makes people like byu71 crave the illusion of stability that comes with fascism.
                      Last edited by Jeff Lebowski; 06-06-2016, 12:31 PM.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • I'm going to take a break from Trump-bashing and acknowledge that I can't think of anyone better than he is at branding and self-promotion.

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                        • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                          I'm going to take a break from Trump-bashing and acknowledge that I can't think of anyone better than he is at branding and self-promotion.
                          mao was pretty good at that
                          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            Protesters are doing Trump a huge favor. It makes people like byu71 crave the illusion of stability that comes with fascism.
                            Something tells me protesters of the Bernie variety don't put a lot of thought into unintended consequences.

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                            • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                              Something tells me protesters of the Bernie variety don't put a lot of thought into unintended consequences.
                              No, they don't. They're being manipulated by Trump.

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                              • Joe Scarborough: Trump getting worse, not better.

                                http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...endorsing.html

                                BYU71, I think you've said before you thought Joe was pro-Trump. I think this shows he never has been. He has just been savvy enough to not piss off Trump enough to make him refuse to be on his air, but he's not a Trump guy. That said, I think he's now passed the point of Trump not being mad at him.
                                Last edited by BlueK; 06-06-2016, 01:45 PM.

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