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  • Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
    Hey everybody, hope we're all enjoying the slow death of the Republic. This was obviously a little too highbrow for other chat environs so I brought it to the home of highbrow.

    https://twitter.com/LitCritTrump/sta...15099755864064


    https://twitter.com/LitCritTrump/sta...95636158423041
    Those are actually pretty amusing. At the twitter feed I also liked the one for the Odyssey.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    • Originally posted by creekster View Post
      Those are actually pretty amusing. At the twitter feed I also liked the one for the Odyssey.
      Yeah they are funny but the jokes are undermined a little with the massive suspension of disbelief: I'm not sure trump can read.

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      • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
        I agree with your general sentiment on the efficiency of the private sector over the public sector; however, most road construction projects are completed by private corporations who competitively bid for the opportunity to do the project. Next time you experience that bottleneck, look around for the construction vehicles and you'll likely find the name of the contractor(s) doing the job. Call that private contractor and complain about its inefficiency.
        The problem is that the government and not the drivers are the customer. All large public construction projects are a complete mess. Trust me. I have professional experience with this.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • Originally posted by pelagius View Post
          Yeah they are funny but the jokes are undermined a little with the massive suspension of disbelief: I'm not sure trump can read.
          I thought the same thing; not a chance Trump has ever read any of those books, not even in college (Cliffs Notes, maybe). He's too busy now to read them, with his favorite book the Bible, consuming his limited reading time.

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Privatized prisons are an absolute disaster. Everyone should watch the Kids for Cash documentary and see if you still think privatization is the solution to everything.

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2925642/
            The problem with all your examples is the government is the principal, so it's not really privatized.
            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

            --Jonathan Swift

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            • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              The problem with all your examples is the government is the principal, so it's not really privatized.
              Holy cow. Another live one.

              OK, let's start with the Kids for Cash example. Judge is sending hundreds, maybe thousands of innocent kids to juvie because his buddy owns the new private facility and the judge gets a kickback. Your solution to this is to privatize the judge? Seriously? How would that even work?

              And since land/space is a finite resource, building toll roads unavoidably involves seizing private land through eminent domain. How on earth do you remove the government from that equation?

              You are in a libertarian fantasy land, my friend.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                And since land/space is a finite resource, building toll roads unavoidably involves seizing private land through eminent domain. How on earth do you remove the government from that equation?
                Easy. Make him an offer he can't refuse.
                “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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                • I've voted libertarian before. Principled people but not anymore realistic than socialists.

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                  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    Holy cow. Another live one.

                    OK, let's start with the Kids for Cash example. Judge is sending hundreds, maybe thousands of innocent kids to juvie because his buddy owns the new private facility and the judge gets a kickback. Your solution to this is to privatize the judge? Seriously? How would that even work?

                    And since land/space is a finite resource, building toll roads unavoidably involves seizing private land through eminent domain. How on earth do you remove the government from that equation?

                    You are in a libertarian fantasy land, my friend.
                    I'm not suggesting judges be privatized. I'm not suggesting we eliminate government. I'm just saying that anything government does--albeit sometimes unavoidable--is not done as well or efficiently as people do things where they have heir own money and sweat at risk. What I'm saying is irrefutable. So, what lesson to implement do we draw from this? Use government as sparingly as possible.

                    Of course you're completely oblivious to the irony that the kids for cash scandal couldn't have happened without a corrupt judge.
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Holy cow. Another live one.

                      OK, let's start with the Kids for Cash example. Judge is sending hundreds, maybe thousands of innocent kids to juvie because his buddy owns the new private facility and the judge gets a kickback. Your solution to this is to privatize the judge? Seriously? How would that even work?
                      Easy... Put the Judge and his buddy in a private facility as inmates and give the buddy's contract to a new bidder.

                      Was the warden in The Shawshank Redemption working for a private company or the government? Just because someone works for the government doesn't make them immune to corruption.
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        I'm not suggesting judges be privatized. I'm not suggesting we eliminate government. I'm just saying that anything government does--albeit sometimes unavoidable--is not done as well or efficiently as people do things where they have heir own money and sweat at risk. What I'm saying is irrefutable. So, what lesson to implement do we draw from this? Use government as sparingly as possible.

                        Of course you're completely oblivious to the irony that the kids for cash scandal couldn't have happened without a corrupt judge.
                        And you are completely oblivious to the fact that the cash scandal couldn't have happened without a private, for-profit penal facility.

                        What you are saying is indeed refutable, because you aren't really saying anything. You are bitching that government is the problem in a realm where it would be impossible to completely privatize (as you admit). Furthermore, the fact that a government agency is not run perfectly does not automatically mean that privatization would be an improvement.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          Easy... Put the Judge and his buddy in a private facility as inmates and give the buddy's contract to a new bidder.

                          Was the warden in The Shawshank Redemption working for a private company or the government?
                          Just because someone works for the government doesn't make them immune to corruption.
                          Uh .... dude. That was fiction. Great movie, though. One of my all-time favorites.

                          Nobody (especially me) ever claimed that government officials are immune to corruption. But the solution to corruption is not chronyism or privatization.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                            Leavitt endorses Kasich!!! Leavitt edorses Kasich!!!

                            This is huge!


                            Nice Costa Rican flag with the full shield on it!
                            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                            • Trump loses... skinheads riot. Trump wins... niggas riot. I'm guessing there is going to be a riot.

                              Black Lives Matter Leader: Trump Wins…WE RIOT!!! Prominent Leader Threatens…

                              Today, a prominent Black Lives Matter activist made threats to incite a riot on Twitter.


                              “Dear white people if Trump wins young niggas such as myself are fully hell bent on inciting riots everywhere we go. Just so you know,” Tef Poe tweeted today.


                              Poe coined the phrase, “This ain’t your grandparents’ civil rights movement.”


                              Dear white people if Trump wins young niggas such as myself are fully hell bent on inciting riots everywhere we go. Just so you know.


                              — War Machine III (@TefPoe) March 16, 2016
                              http://www.worldnewspolitics.com/201...der-threatens/

                              Last edited by Uncle Ted; 03-17-2016, 07:37 PM.
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                And you are completely oblivious to the fact that the cash scandal couldn't have happened without a private, for-profit penal facility.

                                What you are saying is indeed refutable, because you aren't really saying anything. You are bitching that government is the problem in a realm where it would be impossible to completely privatize (as you admit). Furthermore, the fact that a government agency is not run perfectly does not automatically mean that privatization would be an improvement.
                                wtf are you talking about. Nobody here is advocating "cronyism". By definition, that is only possible where government is in charge. You're not arguing here with your idiot right wing Mormon relatives. They've driven you to a new kind of dogma. As an American, you live in the lap of luxury, and everyone who put you in the position to put yourself here was an individual who did it by dint of their resourcefulness and nerve, whether you know it or not.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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