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  • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    So did Romney help or hurt Trump?
    Won't affect Trump supporters. But it could hurt Trump if it nudges the remaining candidates to start coordinating their campaigns to try to keep Trump below 50%.
    τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      So SeattleUte joins Goatnapper and Venkman as the first three here to come of the closet as Trump supporters. Why am I not surprised?
      I have been saying that SU is a Trump fanboy for some time.

      BTW, why do I get the feeling that The Drudge Report web site likes Trump as well...

      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
        Sorry, there ain't no way a meaningful number of Sanders voters move to the Trump camp.
        What if he promises a free education at Trump University?
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          Excellent question. Amazing how resilient these Trump supporters are. They just keep digging in their heels.
          Why I support Trump — and resent the elites trying to destroy him

          I'll sum up: "He's not as bad as George W. Bush who I voted for twice."
          You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
          Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

          Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
          You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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          • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            What if he promises a free education at Trump University?
            Hell no. Those people don't want to learn about real estate they want to study something with utility. Something like theater arts or medieval history.

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            • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              So Goatnapper and Venkman are the first two here to come of the closet as Trump supporters. Why am I not surprised.
              I haven't decided who I'm voting for. I didn't read Goat's post as an endorsement of Trump, but rather an explanation of the appeal. It's not about racism. The working class have felt like they don't have a home since the Democrats abandoned them in 1994 with the passage of NAFTA. Trump talks about issues the working man is concerned about.
              "Remember to double tap"

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              • Originally posted by venkman View Post
                I haven't decided who I'm voting for. I didn't read Goat's post as an endorsement of Trump, but rather an explanation of the appeal. It's not about racism. The working class have felt like they don't have a home since the Democrats abandoned them in 1994 with the passage of NAFTA. Trump talks about issues the working man is concerned about.
                Too bad for them that Trump's trade ideas would hurt his supporters even worse. Have fun paying 30% more overnight for everything at Walmart. And while tariffs may eventually artificially prop up a few industries, it would take at least months if not longer for it to result in more jobs, and those would still only help a minority of workers. Higher prices on the other hand, would be instant and would hurt lower income people the most.
                Last edited by BlueK; 03-09-2016, 11:18 AM.

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                • Originally posted by venkman View Post
                  I haven't decided who I'm voting for. I didn't read Goat's post as an endorsement of Trump, but rather an explanation of the appeal. It's not about racism. The working class have felt like they don't have a home since the Democrats abandoned them in 1994 with the passage of NAFTA. Trump talks about issues the working man is concerned about.
                  It is most definitely partly about racism and xenophobia.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    It is most definitely partly about racism and xenophobia.
                    Yeah, there is no way to miss that. Of course it is.

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      It is most definitely partly about racism and xenophobia.
                      Yep and I expect regardless of whether Trump gets the nomination or not the republican party platform will become increasingly protectionist and nativist (I suppose this expectation is conditional on the GOP surviving). It will look more and more like the "dirty right" of Europe. (count me out of that party)

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                      • Originally posted by pelagius View Post
                        Yep and I expect regardless of whether Trump gets the nomination or not the republican party platform will become increasingly protectionist and nativist (I suppose this expectation is conditional on the GOP surviving). It will look more and more like the "dirty right" of Europe. (count me out of that party)
                        BS is just as much in for of that.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          BS is just as much in for of that.
                          I was just going to post that. He doesn't speak in racial terms, but a big part of his support comes from the protectionist wing of the democrat party.

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                          • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            BS is just as much in for of that.
                            Maybe ... I don't think he is nearly as nativist as Trump, but he's probably as protectionist as Trump (of course, it's hard to say where Trump really is on protectionism). I do think the orange reich is all in on both so republicans are going to pander pretty hard to them over those aspects even after Trump is gone. (More generally I think you'll see more pandering to white-male resentment by the GOP for a while).
                            Last edited by pelagius; 03-09-2016, 12:01 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                              I was just going to post that. He doesn't speak in racial terms, but a big part of his support comes from the protectionist wing of the democrat party.
                              Which is really what makes Trump dangerous to the economy, IMO. Where other candidates would fail to get much through the Congress, there is a real danger Trump could get his knucklehead protectionist crap to pass using mostly democrat votes with some help of Republicans only being supportive because they'd be in the same party as Trump. Same thing for taxes. If you make a decent living I guarantee you'll pay more in taxes under Trump, maybe as bad or worse than it's been with Obama. Again, because it's harder for a democrat president to push through higher taxes with a Republican congress than it would be for fake-republican Trump to do so with any Congress. At some point the economy will tank and he'll be booted out in 4 years.

                              On the other hand, I'm still not convinced he can win the general election anyway. It might be possible, but given the demographics of the country today I find it highly improbable for any candidate to win without getting a single non-white vote, which is essentially what Trump would have to do.
                              Last edited by BlueK; 03-09-2016, 12:21 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                Don't forget Shaka
                                I don't support Trump. I'll vote for Rubio or Cruz. In the general I'd consider Trump over Hilary.

                                With that said I don't think Trump is the anti-Christ nor do I think he's Hitler's equivalent. Mostly I think he's a blowhard.

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