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The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck
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If Michael Bloomberg runs, does he get enough votes to.actually win states? How about states like New York, Connecticut and New Jersey?
The next question is if that's a possibility (I'm doubtful), does a conservative candidate also run if Trump gets the nomination, someone like Ted Cruz or something.
If no one gets 270, then the top 3 electoral vote getters cam be votes on by the House of Representatives.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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If Bernie gets the nomination, then Bloomberg might see an opening. Joe Lieberman won an independent Senate run in Connecticut when the Dems went off the deep end there a few years back.
Bloomberg is going to be more attractive to Democratic voters than GOP voters. If no one on the conservative side jumped in, Trump would have a path to the White House.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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heck, if its bernie, trump and bloomberg, why not Mitt?Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostIf Bernie gets the nomination, then Bloomberg might see an opening. Joe Lieberman won an independent Senate run in Connecticut when the Dems went off the deep end there a few years back.
Bloomberg is going to be more attractive to Democratic voters than GOP voters. If no one on the conservative side jumped in, Trump would have a path to the White House.
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I saw where he threatened to have arrested anyone who was out on the streets during the blizzard.Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostI think New York would go for Bloomberg. De Blasio is not popular and has made a lot of people nostalgic for the Giuliani/Bloomberg years.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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I think it would take a fourth candidate with high name recognition for the House of Representatives scenario to play out. Bloomberg by himself could conceivably capture 2-3 states by himself, but all he would do in the other states is take votes away from Sanders/Hillary and allow Trump to win states like Ohio, Florida, Colorado, etc.Originally posted by Maximus View Postheck, if its bernie, trump and bloomberg, why not Mitt?
Someone like Romney would have to enter the race to take electoral votes away from Trump to prevent a majority. It would be enticing to someone like Romney because they would be the favored candidate with the House of Representatives.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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if only EVs were proportional... I just dont think romney could out do the other 3 in any non rocky mountain state to win enough EVs for someone not to get 270Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostI think it would take a fourth candidate with high name recognition for the House of Representatives scenario to play out. Bloomberg by himself could conceivably capture 2-3 states by himself, but all he would do in the other states is take votes away from Sanders/Hillary and allow Trump to win states like Ohio, Florida, Colorado, etc.
Someone like Romney would have to enter the race to take electoral votes away from Trump to prevent a majority. It would be enticing to someone like Romney because they would be the favored candidate with the House of Representatives.
I was playing around with the EV map calculator...if bloomberg won NY...and romney won utah and idaho (even if mitt didnt win either, neither party would have majority)
Last edited by Maximus; 01-25-2016, 05:33 PM.
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Bloomberg capturing New York alone could knock Romney out. I actually think Romney could get Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas and maybe Arizona. I'm not sure about states like Nebraska and Kansas. Trump would carry the South. Bernie would get the West Coast.Originally posted by Maximus View Postif only EVs were proportional... I just dont think romney could out do the other 3 in any non rocky mountain state to win enough EVs for someone not to get 270
The question is who would get the same ol battleground states. Romney could take more votes away from Trump than Bloomberg would from Bernie in states like Ohio.
I also can't help but wonder if someone like Romney would take votes away from Bloomberg in a state like New York which would allow Sanders to win.
I think the conservative alternative would have to be Southern or from some place like Texas. So, Cruz or Perry. Or it could be a another younger guy like Rubio or Corey Gardner.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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why would bloomberg winning NY knock romney out? he would get more EVs....but the whole point is to make sure no one gets 270, then House can pick any of themOriginally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostBloomberg capturing New York alone could knock Romney out. I actually think Romney could get Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas and maybe Arizona. I'm not sure about states like Nebraska and Kansas. Trump would carry the South. Bernie would get the West Coast.
The question is who would get the same ol battleground states. Romney could take more votes away from Trump than Bloomberg would from Bernie in states like Ohio.
I also can't help but wonder if someone like Romney would take votes away from Bloomberg in a state like New York which would allow Sanders to win.
I think the conservative alternative would have to be Southern or from some place like Texas. So, Cruz or Perry. Or it could be a another younger guy like Rubio or Corey Gardner.
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They can only choose between the top 3 electoral vote getters. Romney would probably have to make a clean sweep of those states I mentioned to get past Bloomberg. Otherwise, Romney would be 4th.Originally posted by Maximus View Postwhy would bloomberg winning NY knock romney out? he would get more EVs....but the whole point is to make sure no one gets 270, then House can pick any of themPart of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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yea just saw that...I guess theyd pick bloomberg? I dunno...between trump and bloomberg...but each state gets 1 vote, so who knowsOriginally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostThey can only choose between the top 3 electoral vote getters. Romney would probably have to make a clean sweep of those states I mentioned to get past Bloomberg. Otherwise, Romney would be 4th.
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