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  • Moliere
    One man.....one pie
    • Oct 2009
    • 27875

    #2521
    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    Michael Bloomberg is supposedly making serious plans to run as an independent.

    It's a wacky year and if Hillary and Trump are the candidates, I think Bloomberg could get quite a bit more than Ross Perot in 1992.
    Time to stock up on soda and other possible future contraband items.
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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69674

      #2522
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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      • Color Me Badd Fan
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 12519

        #2523
        If Michael Bloomberg runs, does he get enough votes to.actually win states? How about states like New York, Connecticut and New Jersey?

        The next question is if that's a possibility (I'm doubtful), does a conservative candidate also run if Trump gets the nomination, someone like Ted Cruz or something.

        If no one gets 270, then the top 3 electoral vote getters cam be votes on by the House of Representatives.
        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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        • Color Me Badd Fan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 12519

          #2524
          If Bernie gets the nomination, then Bloomberg might see an opening. Joe Lieberman won an independent Senate run in Connecticut when the Dems went off the deep end there a few years back.

          Bloomberg is going to be more attractive to Democratic voters than GOP voters. If no one on the conservative side jumped in, Trump would have a path to the White House.
          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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          • Maximus
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 6016

            #2525
            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            If Bernie gets the nomination, then Bloomberg might see an opening. Joe Lieberman won an independent Senate run in Connecticut when the Dems went off the deep end there a few years back.

            Bloomberg is going to be more attractive to Democratic voters than GOP voters. If no one on the conservative side jumped in, Trump would have a path to the White House.
            heck, if its bernie, trump and bloomberg, why not Mitt?

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            • Omaha 680
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 11180

              #2526
              I think New York would go for Bloomberg. De Blasio is not popular and has made a lot of people nostalgic for the Giuliani/Bloomberg years.

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              • falafel
                loves to talk on things
                • Mar 2009
                • 37973

                #2527
                Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                I think New York would go for Bloomberg. De Blasio is not popular and has made a lot of people nostalgic for the Giuliani/Bloomberg years.
                I saw where he threatened to have arrested anyone who was out on the streets during the blizzard.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                • old_gregg
                  scaly man fish
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 16915

                  #2528
                  Originally posted by falafel View Post
                  I saw where he threatened to have arrested anyone who was out on the streets during the blizzard.
                  also, the uber fiasco has been bad. and his whole bikes thing has been obnoxious.
                  Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                  • Color Me Badd Fan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12519

                    #2529
                    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                    heck, if its bernie, trump and bloomberg, why not Mitt?
                    I think it would take a fourth candidate with high name recognition for the House of Representatives scenario to play out. Bloomberg by himself could conceivably capture 2-3 states by himself, but all he would do in the other states is take votes away from Sanders/Hillary and allow Trump to win states like Ohio, Florida, Colorado, etc.

                    Someone like Romney would have to enter the race to take electoral votes away from Trump to prevent a majority. It would be enticing to someone like Romney because they would be the favored candidate with the House of Representatives.
                    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                    • Maximus
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 6016

                      #2530
                      Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                      I think it would take a fourth candidate with high name recognition for the House of Representatives scenario to play out. Bloomberg by himself could conceivably capture 2-3 states by himself, but all he would do in the other states is take votes away from Sanders/Hillary and allow Trump to win states like Ohio, Florida, Colorado, etc.

                      Someone like Romney would have to enter the race to take electoral votes away from Trump to prevent a majority. It would be enticing to someone like Romney because they would be the favored candidate with the House of Representatives.
                      if only EVs were proportional... I just dont think romney could out do the other 3 in any non rocky mountain state to win enough EVs for someone not to get 270

                      I was playing around with the EV map calculator...if bloomberg won NY...and romney won utah and idaho (even if mitt didnt win either, neither party would have majority)

                      Last edited by Maximus; 01-25-2016, 05:33 PM.

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                      • Color Me Badd Fan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 12519

                        #2531
                        Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                        if only EVs were proportional... I just dont think romney could out do the other 3 in any non rocky mountain state to win enough EVs for someone not to get 270
                        Bloomberg capturing New York alone could knock Romney out. I actually think Romney could get Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas and maybe Arizona. I'm not sure about states like Nebraska and Kansas. Trump would carry the South. Bernie would get the West Coast.

                        The question is who would get the same ol battleground states. Romney could take more votes away from Trump than Bloomberg would from Bernie in states like Ohio.

                        I also can't help but wonder if someone like Romney would take votes away from Bloomberg in a state like New York which would allow Sanders to win.

                        I think the conservative alternative would have to be Southern or from some place like Texas. So, Cruz or Perry. Or it could be a another younger guy like Rubio or Corey Gardner.
                        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                        • Maximus
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 6016

                          #2532
                          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                          Bloomberg capturing New York alone could knock Romney out. I actually think Romney could get Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas and maybe Arizona. I'm not sure about states like Nebraska and Kansas. Trump would carry the South. Bernie would get the West Coast.

                          The question is who would get the same ol battleground states. Romney could take more votes away from Trump than Bloomberg would from Bernie in states like Ohio.

                          I also can't help but wonder if someone like Romney would take votes away from Bloomberg in a state like New York which would allow Sanders to win.

                          I think the conservative alternative would have to be Southern or from some place like Texas. So, Cruz or Perry. Or it could be a another younger guy like Rubio or Corey Gardner.
                          why would bloomberg winning NY knock romney out? he would get more EVs....but the whole point is to make sure no one gets 270, then House can pick any of them

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                          • Color Me Badd Fan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 12519

                            #2533
                            Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                            why would bloomberg winning NY knock romney out? he would get more EVs....but the whole point is to make sure no one gets 270, then House can pick any of them
                            They can only choose between the top 3 electoral vote getters. Romney would probably have to make a clean sweep of those states I mentioned to get past Bloomberg. Otherwise, Romney would be 4th.
                            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                            • Maximus
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 6016

                              #2534
                              Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                              They can only choose between the top 3 electoral vote getters. Romney would probably have to make a clean sweep of those states I mentioned to get past Bloomberg. Otherwise, Romney would be 4th.
                              yea just saw that...I guess theyd pick bloomberg? I dunno...between trump and bloomberg...but each state gets 1 vote, so who knows

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                              • YOhio
                                Hipster Mode
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26165

                                #2535
                                Interesting tweet. Really hope the polls hold the same flaw for the R race.

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