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  • frank ryan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12283

    #1831
    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    I'm no neurosurgeon, but if I were to run for political office, I'd make sure my advisors were smart enough to not question my foreign policy chops publicly:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/us...-say.html?_r=0
    He is an absolute idiot concerning foreign policy. WTF is wrong with the GOP?

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    • Bo Diddley
      Senior
      • Jul 2012
      • 18724

      #1832
      Jindal out.

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69515

        #1833
        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
        It seems that Texas is closing its borders... and not just the southern ones:





        I don't know what Abbott is worried about... Texans know how to deal with ISIS terrorists around here:



        Oregon will take'm...
        Utah is taking them too.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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        • Eddie
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 8098

          #1834
          Originally posted by cowboy View Post
          Stuff like this makes you wonder how such smart people (and I think the presidential candidates on both sides are smart - you don't get to that level without a fairly high IQ) can say and do such stupid things. Lord help us if Trump is elected. He would be even more authoritarian than Obama, who has been the most 'my way or highway' president we've ever had.
          Did you read the article?

          Trump's comments come a day after France's interior minister said he would pursue the "dissolution of mosques where hate is preached."
          So France's interior minister said he would pursue the dissolution of mosques where hate is preached. Trump said he would hate to do it, but that he would strongly consider closing some mosques where hate is preached.

          Trump has plenty of issues to be concerned about. And I haven't thought this particular topic through enough to fully form an opinion on it. But I think this is far from the craziest idea Trump has shared. If there are mosques preaching hate and inciting folks to fight and/or contribute to the fighting, I'm OK with considering how to respond to those actions. Shutting them down might be one of those options.

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          • Uncle Ted
            The Big 12 money shot.
            • Apr 2010
            • 28853

            #1835
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Utah is taking them too.
            And I am guessing that one-way bus tickets to Utah will be cheaper!
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • creekster
              It is NOT a monkey!
              • Nov 2008
              • 22661

              #1836
              Originally posted by Eddie View Post
              Did you read the article?



              So France's interior minister said he would pursue the dissolution of mosques where hate is preached. Trump said he would hate to do it, but that he would strongly consider closing some mosques where hate is preached.

              Trump has plenty of issues to be concerned about. And I haven't thought this particular topic through enough to fully form an opinion on it. But I think this is far from the craziest idea Trump has shared. If there are mosques preaching hate and inciting folks to fight and/or contribute to the fighting, I'm OK with considering how to respond to those actions. Shutting them down might be one of those options.
              preaching hate, inciting to violence and actually fighting are three very different things. If you think forced closure of mosques is acceptable for all of these reasons, then you should re-read and re-consider the first amendment.
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • Eddie
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 8098

                #1837
                Originally posted by creekster View Post
                preaching hate, inciting to violence and actually fighting are three very different things. If you think forced closure of mosques is acceptable for all of these reasons, then you should re-read and re-consider the first amendment.
                So you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. But you can yell "Open fire in a crowded theater?" At what point is the line crossed? I'm not in favor of thought police, don't get me wrong. But I don't believe all speech is free either. There are consequences when you encourage someone to initiate violence.

                I never said I thought it was a good idea. I said that another politician in another country said that he was going to DO it. So Trump said "sure, it is something that should be considered here too."

                I'm OK with all things being CONSIDERED. And part of that is weighing the consequences, positive and negative, of such action.

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                • il Padrino Ute
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19161

                  #1838
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  It seems that Texas is closing its borders... and not just the southern ones:





                  I don't know what Abbott is worried about... Texans know how to deal with ISIS terrorists around here:



                  Oregon will take'm...
                  So will Utah.
                  "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                  "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                  • Eddie
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 8098

                    #1839
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    Utah is taking them too.
                    Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                    So will Utah.
                    Yup

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                    • Color Me Badd Fan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 12519

                      #1840
                      The governors don't get to say who the federal government lets in. That doesn't mean that it's a good idea to accept these refugees given recent events. The refugees from Somalia have been here for 20-30 years and they've been a pain in the ass.

                      It would be entirely humane to rescue those suffering from Syria’s mayhem. It would be inhumane, though, to gravely threaten American security in the process.
                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • il Padrino Ute
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19161

                        #1841
                        Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        He is an absolute idiot concerning foreign policy. WTF is wrong with the GOP?
                        Carson's foreign policy is no worse than that of Bernie Sanders.
                        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                        • Color Me Badd Fan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 12519

                          #1842
                          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                          Carson's foreign policy is no worse than that of Bernie Sanders.
                          That doesn't help Carson's cause. Sanders is a complete fool on foreign policy.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12283

                            #1843
                            Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                            Carson's foreign policy is no worse than that of Bernie Sanders.
                            Yes it is. It's worse than Palin's. I know you hate democrats, blah blah blah, but Carson's foreign policy idiocy is in a league of its own.

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                            • frank ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12283

                              #1844
                              Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                              That doesn't help Carson's cause. Sanders is a complete fool on foreign policy.
                              His knowledge of foreign policy issues/affairs is far superior than Carson's. He has been in the senate a million years.

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                              • creekster
                                It is NOT a monkey!
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 22661

                                #1845
                                The 2016 Presidential Election Primary Thread

                                Sanders' foreign-policy knowledge is so bad that when CBS threatened to include questions about the Paris bombings in the recent Democratic debate his aides pitched a fit complaining that it was unfair to Sanders because he hadn't had a chance to "prepare" for foreign-policy issues.
                                PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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