US Embassy Stormed in Cairo...

[frank ryan]

This is allegedly from the same Pakistani "Day of Love":




I guess I could give Obama credit, as he did say something about the Muslim world would like the US more after his inauguration. Rather than burn him in effigy, they're only burning his cofin [sic].

The recent events should silence those on the right who say the terrorists want Obama to win. It is clear they hate all American presidents (and citizens too!)

[il Padrino Ute]

The recent events should silence those on the right who say the terrorists want Obama to win. It is clear they hate all American presidents (and citizens too!)

I've always said that the terrorists hate Americans no matter who they are. I just wonder why the left thinks that the terrorists only hate the right.

[frank ryan]

I've always said that the terrorists hate Americans no matter who they are. I just wonder why the left thinks that the terrorists only hate the right.

Those that link that are dumb. And it is not just America but the West. Britain and France have done some decent things regarding combating terrorism but other countries like Spain and Germany have been all about appeasement

[MindfulCoug]

Just saw this report and wanted to share.

Lybian crowd drew an Islamic militia out of Bengazi to show their anger over murder of four American diplomats. Just a hint of what the real people want and would like to be seen as.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-n...4085/#49131798

[UtahDan]

Just saw this report and wanted to share.

Lybian crowd drew an Islamic militia out of Bengazi to show their anger over murder of four American diplomats. Just a hint of what the real people want and would like to be seen as.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-n...4085/#49131798

This is very heartening.

[Devildog]

That demonstration had at least as much to do with those people not wanting to live under individual warlords as it had to do with standing up to those that killed our ambassador. IMO that might be part of the picture, but it had less to do with their protest of our ambassador's death, than it had to do with the conditions they live under every day.

Here is another perspective, and while I don't necessarily agree with every word... his view from England is interesting.

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[myboynoah]

That demonstration had at least as much to do with those people not wanting to live under individual warlords as it had to do with standing up to those that killed our ambassador. IMO that might be part of the picture, but it had less to do with their protest of our ambassador's death, than it had to do with the conditions they live under every day.

Here is another perspective, and while I don't necessarily agree with every word... his view from England is interesting.

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I'm Barack Obama and do not approve of this message.

[dabrockster]

Can this Admin. even agree with itself??

Obama now comes out and says the rioting in Lybia was caused by the youtube video. Says this when he speaks at the U.N...



http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-p...rn-californian

[UtahDan]

Can this Admin. even agree with itself??

Obama now comes out and says the rioting in Lybia was caused by the youtube video. Says this when he speaks at the U.N...



http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-p...rn-californian

Where did he say that? I thought it was a good speech, this part in particular. THAT is the message we need to be sending.

Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs," he said. "As President of our country, and Commander-in-Chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so. Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views--even views that we profoundly disagree with.

“Now, I know that not all countries in this body share this understanding of the protection of free speech. We recognize that," said Obama. “But in 2012, at a time when anyone with a cell phone can spread offensive views around the world with the click of a button, the notion that we can control the flow of information is obsolete. The question, then, is how do we respond. And on this we must agree: there is no speech that justifies mindless violence.

[creekster]

Where did he say that? I thought it was a good speech, this part in particular. THAT is the message we need to be sending.

I agree. Instead of the chamberlain-esque response that was peddled imediately after the ambassador's death, he should have said this. Of course, you are leaving out a lot of other things he said in his speech that dilutes the power of these words.

[San Juan Sun]

Where did he say that?

See the third quoted segment.

http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/25/p...ng-christians/

Overall a good speech, just a week and a half too late.

[UtahDan]

I agree. Instead of the chamberlain-esque response that was peddled imediately after the ambassador's death, he should have said this. Of course, you are leaving out a lot of other things he said in his speech that dilutes the power of these words.

I think when there is a fire, you put the fire out. Then you think about what to do next. I think there is something to the idea that with the embers still literally smoldering and our people still at risk in those places, you say something to try to pacify what you imagine (right or wrong) might be the cause so long as it doesn't cost you your principles. I don't think it did here. I'm looking at this form a tactical perspective, not from the perspective of what the perfect statement of our principles would have been that same day or the day after.

But what do you think he said that diluted what I quoted, I'm curious. I quoted a pretty long passage so as to let it have its proper context.

[UtahDan]

See the third quoted segment.

http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/25/p...ng-christians/

Overall a good speech, just a week and a half too late.

That is what we saw play out the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world.

That? Hopefully no one is suggesting with a straight face that in a speech that tries to address larger ideas that this statement represents the administration dithering about what happened in Libya or changing it's mind? This is why I have come to not enjoy politics in our country. It is not worth the effort to address an assertion that nonsensical (not saying you specifically).

[San Juan Sun]

That? Hopefully no one is suggesting with a straight face that in a speech that tries to address larger ideas that this statement represents the administration dithering about what happened in Libya or changing it's mind? This is why I have come to not enjoy politics in our country. It is not worth the effort to address an assertion that nonsensical (not saying you specifically).

You asked.

I think that most of Obama's speech would be something all Americans agree with. That being, said there's no question that the narrative being spun by the Obama Administration has been repeatedly shown as untrue.

[dabrockster]

Where did he say that? I thought it was a good speech, this part in particular. THAT is the message we need to be sending.

To me he muddled down that great comment by not once making a comment about Terrorism. He spoke of Chris Stevens in the beginning and his life. He went straight into speaking of the "Attack or Assault" on him and our compound etc. He never once mentioned Terrorism or that it was a act of terrorism on a day we hold sacred in the U.S.(9/11).

His speech further detailed freedoms and our responsibility of freedom that goes beyond "Western Values". All very good comments. Speaking of tolerance of difference of religion, democracy etc.

He then dove straight into the video. And used these words when introducing the video into the speech.

That is what we saw play out the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world.

By use those words ("The last 2 weeks") to me he intentionally lumped the attacks and killing of Stevens together with this video.

He followed it up with great comments that I thought were very solid (like below).

Understand that America will never retreat from the world. We will bring justice to those who harm our citizens and our friends. We will stand with our allies and are willing to partner with countries to deepen ties

However, he seems to ignore or refrain from using the words Terrorism at all in this speech when speaking of Stevens (He calls them "Killers" at the end of his speech. Yes they are killers but they are more than that) when we now know it was a Terrorist act (He mentions it when speaking about Iran). Why not step up and affirm his relations with the new Lybian Govt. there who stated this even when we were ignoring it..

He's a great speaker, I'll give him that...