Swine Flu Thread
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These days, this is the stage when these patients would get put on a ventilator in an ICU and have a pretty decent chance at survival with good supportive care, antiviral meds, and antibiotics for the subsequent bacterial superinfection.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostThis is what happened in 1918:
The blue tint was caused by lack of oxygen due to tissue in the lungs hardening. Once you were blue, you knew you had a few hours to live. The virus didn't discriminate on age. Young healthy people were just as likely to die.
This country has a ton of ICUs and ventilators, but they're mostly being used on octogenarians right now. During an honest-to-goodness epidemic, we would possibly have to use all those resources on younger folks (less than 70?) with a good chance at survival. This country has really never had to do something like that -- it would be tough for many Americans to have to come up against health care rationing for the first time. In the past, we have never denied ventilators or ICUs to dying people.
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From the CDC's webpage:
To this end, CDC has issued a number of interim guidance documents in the past 24 hours. In addition, CDC's Division of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) is releasing one-quarter of its antiviral drugs, personal protective equipment, and respiratory protection devices to help states respond to the outbreak. Laboratory testing has found the swine influenza A (H1N1) virus susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Well I have felt like crap the last couple of days with flu-like symptoms ... nice knowing you all.
Seriously, should I go to the doc?"It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."
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Heck yes. Don't you live in Utah County? I have children and grandchildren down there. Lock yourself up in your basement until the all clear is given.Originally posted by FMCoug View PostWell I have felt like crap the last couple of days with flu-like symptoms ... nice knowing you all.
Seriously, should I go to the doc?
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You sound like my boss. He made me go home today and said don't come back until I feel better.Originally posted by byu71 View PostHeck yes. Don't you live in Utah County? I have children and grandchildren down there. Lock yourself up in your basement until the all clear is given."It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."
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Do you have a cough and a fever of at least 101.0?Originally posted by FMCoug View PostWell I have felt like crap the last couple of days with flu-like symptoms ... nice knowing you all.
Seriously, should I go to the doc?
If you don't have both of those, you probably don't have influenza.
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Hey I'm in NYC. It's all over the news here. Speaking of which, I saw designer surgical masks today. A bunch of Asians were wearing Burberry inspired masks over the faces walking through Times Square. Why don't I think of these things?"Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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Wow. If they are scared enough to wear a mask, they should stay home instead of going to a crowded tourist attraction.Originally posted by Surfah View PostHey I'm in NYC. It's all over the news here. Speaking of which, I saw designer surgical masks today. A bunch of Asians were wearing Burberry inspired masks over the faces walking through Times Square. Why don't I think of these things?Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks
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I have a group of 10 employees who won a company trip to Mexico. They got back last week and three of them have had a horrible flu since. One missed the entire week last week and again today. Two others I sent home today and won't let them back until they have an all clear note from their doctor. I'm probably over reacting, but I'm not taking any chances.A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali
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