Republicans on Rape

[TexTechCoug]

No abortion is extreme, as is free abortion on demand, just because you subscribe to one of the extremes doesn't make it any more reasonable.

The fact that the Democratic platform pushes for free on demand abortion and follows that it should be rare is laughable.

Most Americans sit somewhere in the middle, but single issue extremists seem to push policy in the two parties.

Post script: Sterilization should be free on demand, and reversal of said free sterilization should be out of pocket only.

[byu71]

Incorrect. It allows choice (aka. "freedom") on demand.

There are consequences of choice. Don't bring up rape and or incest, that isn't a choice.

Getting pregnant and carrying the baby into the second or third term is a choice. In my opinion, that choice creates a responsibility which should not be easily cast aside just because one decides they don't want the responsibility of the choice.

I am not anti abortion under any conditions, but by the same token I don't think it is just a "freedom" issue in all cases either.

[il Padrino Ute]

Incorrect. It allows choice (aka. "freedom") on demand.

In this case, freedom, as Democrats see it, means pro-death.

[TexTechCoug]

In this case, freedom, as Democrats see it, means pro-death.

It is only OK to kill the innocent unborn, convicted murderers are a protected class. Democrats are humane, don't you know?

[il Padrino Ute]

It is only OK to kill the innocent unborn, convicted murderers are a protected class. Democrats are humane, don't you know?

I've heard that. And they apparently believe it.

[Indy Coug]

That's not true. By extending 14th Amendment protections to the unborn, it would be virtually impossible to have an abortion for any reason at all (I suppose it could happen after "due process" was afforded to the unborn, but I can't even fathom what that would look like or what the appropriate basis would be to decide to "execute" the unborn child). There are no exceptions.

You're making a supposition. Come back when you have something a little more definitive. Thanks in advance.

[calicoug]

No abortion is extreme, as is free abortion on demand, just because you subscribe to one of the extremes doesn't make it any more reasonable.

The fact that the Democratic platform pushes for free on demand abortion and follows that it should be rare is laughable.

Most Americans sit somewhere in the middle, but single issue extremists seem to push policy in the two parties.

Post script: Sterilization should be free on demand, and reversal of said free sterilization should be out of pocket only.

First, it isn't "free abortion on demand." The platform explicitly notes the party supports Roe v. Wade which effectively restricts the government from imposing severe restrictions on a woman's right to choose to have an abortion during the first trimester (after that- the government may impose restrictions and may even bar them). So we are talking about a limited window here.

Second, Democrats do want to reduce abortions. Everyone does. That's why they also favor sex ed, availability of contraceptives, etc.

Third, after all that, if a situation arises where a woman feels it necessary to choose to have an abortion, Democrats favor permitting it to occur (and assisting with funding where needed).

That isn't being "pro-death" as others have said here ("pro-death" would be just stabbing pregnant mothers), and it isn't extreme.

[TexTechCoug]

Be honest, anything that is free is going to have a huge demand. It is a simple economic principle and it works in healthcare the same as in other areas. If the government pays for abortions during the first trimester the demand will be very, very high. Just because something is legal doesn't make it an entitlement. The idea that the government sponsors abortion is pretty appalling to many Americans.

Second, many people feel like terminating a perfectly healthy fetus is exactly the same as stabbing a woman. To them pro-choice sounds ridiculous.

Roe v. Wade is not an edict from God and people don't have to agree with it.

[calicoug]

Be honest, anything that is free is going to have a huge demand. It is a simple economic principle and it works in healthcare the same as in other areas. If the government pays for abortions during the first trimester the demand will be very, very high. Just because something is legal doesn't make it an entitlement. The idea that the government sponsors abortion is pretty appalling to many Americans.

Second, many people feel like terminating a perfectly healthy fetus is exactly the same as stabbing a woman. To them pro-choice sounds ridiculous.

Roe v. Wade is not an edict from God and people don't have to agree with it.

Roe v. Wade is not an edict from God, and people don't have to agree with it. But the Democratic Party does- as part of its platform.

And if making things free means they are widely used, then make contraceptives free. By your logic, it should mean abortion won't be used much.

[TexTechCoug]

Roe v. Wade is not an edict from God, and people don't have to agree with it. But the Democratic Party does- as part of its platform.

And if making things free means they are widely used, then make contraceptives free. By your logic, it should mean abortion won't be used much.

Free condoms and free birth control would certainly decrease the demand for abortion.

That is why I recommend free sterilization.

[TexTechCoug]

The best investment the DNC ever made was Akin. That guy is an absolute buffoon.

Of note the GOP platform is also poorly worded and too extreme.

What really matters is who ends up on the Supreme Court and how they view this issue.

[Moliere]

Roe v. Wade is not an edict from God, and people don't have to agree with it. But the Democratic Party does- as part of its platform.

And if making things free means they are widely used, then make contraceptives free. By your logic, it should mean abortion won't be used much.

While you are handing out free stuff, can you also make super bowl tickets free?

[TexTechCoug]

While you are handing out free stuff, can you also make super bowl tickets free?

Super Bowl tickets would be cheaper due to sterilizations, fewer people=less demand.

[Colly Wolly]

I am a Republican, and I am going on record now with the opinion that rape is bad.

[TexTechCoug]

I am a Republican, and I am going on record now with the opinion that rape is bad.

Legitimate or illegitimate rape?