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  • Could it be more obvious?

    Watching the trees slowly die around here has been gut wrenching. This last winter was incredibly warm in KC and this summer has been scorching beyond anything I can remember. Its the worst drought in the US since the 1950s, and coupled with the heat, this summer has been punishing. To think that I used to be a climate change denier.
    Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
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    Global climate has never been static. So what's your point?
    Everything in life is an approximation.

    http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      Global climate has never been static. So what's your point?
      Did you read the article? Perhaps I was just sharing the article along with a feeling of disbelief that I once denied that there was a problem.
      Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
      - Howard Aiken

      Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
      - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
        Global climate has never been static. So what's your point?
        We heard a lot of this last year in Texas. It was the hottest summer on record. Ergo, manmade climate change exists.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
          Watching the trees slowly die around here has been gut wrenching. This last winter was incredibly warm in KC and this summer has been scorching beyond anything I can remember. Its the worst drought in the US since the 1950s, and coupled with the heat, this summer has been punishing. To think that I used to be a climate change denier.
          You just said, "it is the worst droubt since the 50's". That is 62 years ago.

          It would have been more credible for the "global warming" folks if you had said, the hottest and worst drought since 2011.

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          • #6
            http://www.usatoday.com/weather/clim...0-summer_N.htm

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            • #7
              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
              You just said, "it is the worst drout since the 50's". That is 62 years ago.

              It would have been more credible for the "global warming" folks if you had said, the hottest and worst drought since 2011.
              So temperatures must be hotter every year or it isn't very credible evidence of warming?
              Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
              - Howard Aiken

              Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
              - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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              • #8
                Why is 1951-1980 a suitable baseline?

                Sea levels rose over 300 feet at the end of the Ice Age. What caused that to happen?
                Everything in life is an approximation.

                http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                  Sea levels rose over 300 feet at the end of the Ice Age. What caused that to happen?
                  I think it was melting ice, but I am not sure.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • #10
                    The dust bowl days were a lot worse than this summer. How to explain that, and the fact that there was a rebound in the midst of the greatest period of capital expansion.

                    The weather probably has more to do with the sever sun spot activity this summer than mans effect on the planet.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
                      So temperatures must be hotter every year or it isn't very credible evidence of warming?
                      Nope, I was making a stupid statement to coincide with an equally stupid statement that "it is the hottest it has been in 50 years" as evidence of global warming.

                      I trust you were quoting someone else because I would never intimate you would make a stupid statement.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
                        So temperatures must be hotter every year or it isn't very credible evidence of warming?
                        Most of the summer temperature records I see were set in the 1930s during the Dust Bowl era. Why did the temperature increase stop back then, requiring 8 decades to start breaking these records?
                        Everything in life is an approximation.

                        http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                          Most of the summer temperature records I see were set in the 1930s during the Dust Bowl era. Why did the temperature increase stop back then, requiring 8 decades to start breaking these records?
                          Because remember back in the 70's the scientist's were warning of us global cooling. Now we are warming back up, they are back on the global warming kick.

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                          • #14
                            I am not sure warming is really in question. It has been getting warmner. The question is the degree to which man's activities are uniquely responsible, as opposed to sun spots and other natural atmospheric inputs.
                            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                              Nope, I was making a stupid statement to coincide with an equally stupid statement that "it is the hottest it has been in 50 years" as evidence of global warming.

                              I trust you were quoting someone else because I would never intimate you would make a stupid statement.
                              FTA:
                              "We can state, with a high degree of confidence, that extreme anomalies such as those in Texas and Oklahoma in 2011 and Moscow in 2010 were a consequence of global warming because their likelihood in the absence of global warming was exceedingly small," Hansen and his co-authors wrote in a study that will be published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

                              The scientist put it more bluntly in an op-ed in yesterday's Washington Post: "The future is now. And it is hot."

                              Hansen's study does not rely on climate models or attempt to link the change in heat wave frequency to carbon dioxide emissions. It is based on observed temperature trends -- a statistical analysis of the global temperature record maintained by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, which Hansen leads.
                              Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                              - Howard Aiken

                              Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                              - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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