Obamacare cost...

[CardiacCoug]

Good to know. We checked local hospitals ... really here in UT it seems that if you make sure IHC is included that would get the lions share.

Like I said though, it looks good on paper ... we'll see how it is in practice.

Yep, completely agree -- I'm sure anything through SelectHealth will be great.

The Salt Lake Tribune spotlighted this Utah family that got an Altius plan through the ACA website. Altius is one of the plans that includes all the doctors but doesn't include any Intermountain facilities --it's a huge pain in the ass. Glad to hear people can get SelectHealth and not everybody is ending up with Altius or one of the other plans that excludes Intermountain facilities.

[SCcoug]

I guess I'm missing out because I've always had a crappy plan that doesn't include IMHC facilities.

[CardiacCoug]

I guess I'm missing out because I've always had a crappy plan that doesn't include IMHC facilities.

You should be fine as long as you don't need heart surgery.

[imanihonjin]

VC, is that you?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/01/pr...acare-debacle/

[Uncle Ted]

VC, is that you?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/01/pr...acare-debacle/

So she blames the "southern white radicals". Obviously she isn't talking about Ted Cruz given he is Hispanic.

[snowcat]

Study: Expanding Medicaid doesn’t reduce ER trips. It increases them.

The research, published Thursday in the journal Science, showed a 40 percent increase in emergency department visits among those low-income adults in Oregon who gained Medicaid coverage in 2008 through a state lottery.

Previous research on the Oregon Medicaid expansion has found that enrolling in the public program increased hospital visits, primary care trips and prescription drug use. That left an unanswered question: Were new Medicaid enrollees going their primary care doctor instead of the emergency department, or, were they using more of all types of health-care services?

This study suggests the latter answer: With financial barriers removed, Medicaid patients see their primary care doctor more -- and also go to the emergency department at an increased frequency. Medicaid enrollees made, on average, 1.43 trips to the emergency department during the 18-month study period, compared to an average of 1.02 visits among those who entered the Medicaid lottery but did not gain coverage.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ncreases-them/

[imanihonjin]

Study: Expanding Medicaid doesn’t reduce ER trips. It increases them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ncreases-them/

This is only surprising to Obamacare supporters who stated that one of the clear goals of Obamacare was to reduce costs by providing preventative care. They believed this despite studies showing that access to preventative care had no impact on the effort to reduce costs.

[Uncle Ted]

This is only surprising to Obamacare supporters who stated that one of the clear goals of Obamacare was to reduce costs by providing preventative care. They believed this despite studies showing that access to preventative care had no impact on the effort to reduce costs.

Trips to the ER is considered preventative care?

[imanihonjin]

Trips to the ER is considered preventative care?

No. The false idea was that access to preventative care (like having access to seeing a general practice doc) would reduce overall health care expenditures by, among other things, reducing visits to the ER.

[Jacob]

Trips to the ER is considered preventative care?

Of course it is. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me, and I feel great. But I want a colonoscopy and I want it now!

[Jacob]

Also, I've read that ER visits are a small overall cost. Not a big deal when discussing cost of healthcare.

[Uncle Ted]

We finally got enrolled in a SelectHealth ACA plan a few weeks ago. Haven't received anything in the mail though.

And I am supposed to get a CT Scan next week.

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How did that CT scan go?

'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!': Obamacare confusion reigns as frustrated patients walk out of hospitals without treatment


Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.


Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.
In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.


'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.


She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.


'The people in there told me that since I didn't have an insurance card, I would be billed for the whole cost of the x-ray,' Galvez said, her young daughter in tow. 'It's not fair – you know, I signed up last week like I was supposed to.'
[...]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nia-hospitals-

[All-American]

Proposal from three Republican Senators, including Orrin Hatch, to repeal and replace:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...44d_story.html

[Uncle Ted]

Proposal from three Republican Senators, including Orrin Hatch, to repeal and replace:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...44d_story.html

Under current law, 100 percent of premiums are exempt from federal income tax, and the proposal would reduce that to 65 percent.

Same Orrin Hatch sh*t, different Orrin Hatch day.

[imanihonjin]

And now you can add this one to the cost of Obamacare......by 2017, 2 million jobs will be lost due to Obamacare.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-labor-market/