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  • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I refuse to believe this crap until until VirginiaCoug says it is true and it is reported on MSNBC. CNN has been telling lies about Obama lately and I am guessing they have turned on the dems in general. They are as bad as that Fox news network now.
    Why would you watch MSNBC - the other side of the Fox"News" coin? Those two aren't as bad as many of the right wing indoctrination sites you seem to frequently references and their left-wing cousins.

    I would say that American politics certainly would be a better place without those nasty ideological "information" sites. They have done way too much harm. As an aside, an interesting story popped up today about why Bill Kristol left Fox. He basically refused Ailes demand to ruin the reputation of someone Ailes wanted everyone in the network to go after.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...467.html?hp=r8

    "Fair and Balanced" indeed.
    Tell Graham to see. And tell Merrill to swing away.

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    • Originally posted by VirginiaCougar View Post
      Why would you watch MSNBC - the other side of the Fox"News" coin? Those two aren't as bad as many of the right wing indoctrination sites you seem to frequently references and their left-wing cousins.

      I would say that American politics certainly would be a better place without those nasty ideological "information" sites. They have done way too much harm. As an aside, an interesting story popped up today about why Bill Kristol left Fox. He basically refused Ailes demand to ruin the reputation of someone Ailes wanted everyone in the network to go after.

      http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...467.html?hp=r8

      "Fair and Balanced" indeed.
      Just admit it already....you would love to amend the 1st amendment of the Constitution to limit these "right-wing" boogeymen you are so afraid of, wouldn't you.

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      • VC, how about the WSJ? Is that a good source?

        [...]
        Ellmers: You also brought up the issue that when you were in Kansas [as health commissioner and governor] that you fought against discriminatory issue. . . . As far as [ObamaCare's] essential health benefits, correct me if I'm wrong: Do men not have to buy maternity care?
        Sebelius: Policies will cover maternity coverage. For the young and healthy, uh, under 30-year-olds will have a choice also of a catastrophic plan that has no maternity coverage.
        Ellmers: But men are required to purchase maternity coverage.
        Sebelius: Well, an insurance policy has a series of benefits whether you use them or not--
        Ellmers: And that is why health care premiums are increasing, because we are forcing them to buy things that they will never need. Thank you.
        Sebelius: The individual policies cover families. Men often do need maternity care for their spouses and for their families, yes.
        Ellmers: A single male, aged 32, does need maternity coverage. To the best of your knowledge, has a man ever delivered a baby?
        Sebelius's point is actually a reasonable one, as far as it goes: A male policyholder can benefit from maternity coverage if his plan covers his wife as well as him. But the exchange reveals two other ObamaCare oddities.


        First, it's not only men who are forced to buy maternity coverage they are physically incapable of using. So are women in the stage of life between childbearing age and Medicare eligibility.


        Second, under-30s are exempt. That's right, the geniuses who wrote ObamaCare are forcing everyone to buy maternity care except the age cohort that includes women at peak fertility.
        [...]
        http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...DDLETopOpinion
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Originally posted by VirginiaCougar View Post
          Wait a minute... politico.com is a republican website!

          http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3011.html
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            VC, how about the WSJ? Is that a good source?


            http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...DDLETopOpinion
            LOL, Nice. A couple of things.

            First, You are bouncing around a bit, just desparate for something to stick. If you want me to say ACA is perfect, I won't because it isn't. There is plenty that real journalists can cover.

            Second, It isn't about an approved list, but it is those that try, use real objective journalistic standards and those that do not. WSJ news reporting tends to do OK. Nothing is perfect. However, what you offer isn't a news story, its an OpEd piece written by a self-acknowledged conservative columnist. WSJ's opinion page has long been a nasty bit of business, but its real stories tend to follow reasonable journalistic standards.
            Tell Graham to see. And tell Merrill to swing away.

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            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              Wait a minute... politico.com is a republican website!

              http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3011.html
              I appreciate you proving my point. That story is a Media Matters story - an organization on the left whose job is to disparage anything that doesn't fit their narrative. Just like a lot of the media sites on the right you have referenced.
              Tell Graham to see. And tell Merrill to swing away.

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              • Originally posted by VirginiaCougar View Post
                Why would you watch MSNBC - the other side of the Fox"News" coin? Those two aren't as bad as many of the right wing indoctrination sites you seem to frequently references and their left-wing cousins.

                I would say that American politics certainly would be a better place without those nasty ideological "information" sites. They have done way too much harm. As an aside, an interesting story popped up today about why Bill Kristol left Fox. He basically refused Ailes demand to ruin the reputation of someone Ailes wanted everyone in the network to go after.

                http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...467.html?hp=r8

                "Fair and Balanced" indeed.
                Here's the truly relevant part of this piece:
                The network's plans to hire columnist George Will, another conservative columnist, may have played a role.
                There it all is in a nutshell. That's why Kristol was phased out and then gone. Will is infinitely better and more widely respected than Kristol.
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                  Here's the truly relevant part of this piece:


                  There it all is in a nutshell. That's why Kristol was phased out and then gone. Will is infinitely better and more widely respected than Kristol.
                  Yep, I am sure that Fox is being truthful. The reported story must be a lie because it is Fox, after all. I do appreciate Politico offering Fox's response, that is good journalism. It just isn't all or the primary info reported in the story.
                  Last edited by VirginiaCougar; 11-01-2013, 04:32 PM.
                  Tell Graham to see. And tell Merrill to swing away.

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                  • http://www.businessinsider.com/kathl...kelsey-2013-11



                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • That look on her face says all we need to know about what kind of person she is.

                      "How dare you mock me."
                      "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                      "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                      • http://videos.nymag.com/video/If-You...-Plan-Supercut
                        One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

                        Woot

                        I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
                        SU

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                        • Hey, Obama "clearly misspoke" when he said that. We all have moments when we misspeak, sometimes even 27 of those moments. Lay off him.

                          http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/op...h-keeping.html

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                          • Why is it that the democrats always seem to come up with the good ideas? The Medicare/Medicaid fix:

                            Dictatorship Is Beginning: Democrats Now Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients

                            I knew once this door was open there would be no end to this BLACK hole and …. so it begins.


                            Democrat delegate candidate Kathleen Murphy said that since many doctors are not accepting medicaid and medicare patients, she advocates making it a legal requirement for those people to be accepted.


                            a Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients


                            She also did not recognize there is a shortage of over 45,000 physicians now and that it is forecast to be 90,000 in a few years.
                            [...]
                            http://investmentwatchblog.com/dicta...IGuieW7FLVm.99
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              Why is it that the democrats always seem to come up with the good ideas? The Medicare/Medicaid fix:


                              http://investmentwatchblog.com/dicta...IGuieW7FLVm.99
                              Oh my... you really should stop ready that ideological political pornography. It certainly titillates, but it is far from the real thing.

                              Nothing over the top about starting with "Dictatorship" and moving on to one of the right wing's favorite variants of Godwin's Law - the evil Marxism reference. Oh, and the wonderful Ayn Rand reference.
                              Last edited by VirginiaCougar; 11-03-2013, 07:13 PM.
                              Tell Graham to see. And tell Merrill to swing away.

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                              • Originally posted by VirginiaCougar View Post
                                Oh my... you really should stop ready that ideological political pornography. It certainly titillates, but it is far from the real thing.

                                Nothing over the top about starting with "Dictatorship" and moving on to one of the right wing's favorite variants of Godwin's Law - the evil Marxism reference. Oh, and the wonderful Ayn Rand reference.
                                When's the next Krugman regurgitation from you? It's been a few days. The column from the self-described progressive activist tided you over I guess. I'm glad we have a gatekeeper like you to decide what is and isn't partisan tripe.

                                Anyway, here's a tragic anecdote from the Wall Street Journal -- http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...71710423780446

                                Apparently she had a policy on the individual market and it's being cancelled. The "garbage/bad apple" policy (which has now cancelled due to the benevolence of Obamacare) allowed her to be treated at Stanford for her gallbladder cancer and UCSD would just take care of the emergency stuff. These wonderful new "quality, low-cost" policies now available to her in California are forcing her to choose between Stanford or UCSD. I'm wondering if you could reference the point you were making last week about Obamacare just getting rid of shitty policies that weren't helping people anyway and try to send it her way. She could use some reassurance right now.
                                Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 11-03-2013, 10:37 PM.
                                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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