Josh Powell just blew up his house with his kids inside

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  • Slim
    Straight Out the Trailer
    • Jul 2009
    • 1007

    #16
    Originally posted by Viking View Post
    Front post on Cougarboard: "Sadly, those children are much better off now. (nm) "

    That's bullshit. Those kids are better off alive and with an opportunity to see the sun rise each day and live their lives.
    I agree. This makes me sick.

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    • woot
      Resident Science Cop
      • Nov 2008
      • 5531

      #17
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      You have got to be kidding.
      Like I said, I know nothing about the case. I'm just imagining the possibility that he was innocent and driven to madness by a system determined to find him guilty. That he exploded his kids would seem to make it more likely that he actually was guilty, but I don't know whether that would justify the assumption of his guilt without evidence.

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      • FMCoug
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 6825

        #18
        Originally posted by Viking View Post
        Front post on Cougarboard: "Sadly, those children are much better off now. (nm) "

        That's bullshit. Those kids are better off alive and with an opportunity to see the sun rise each day and live their lives.
        Apparently one is better off dead if one isn't being raised in a "good Mormon home" with an active nuclear family.

        "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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        • woot
          Resident Science Cop
          • Nov 2008
          • 5531

          #19
          Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
          Apparently one is better off dead if one isn't being raised in a "good Mormon home" with an active nuclear family.

          Maybe those CBers are the ones who should be locked up.

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          • CardiacCoug
            вот так штука
            • Nov 2008
            • 11013

            #20
            Originally posted by woot View Post
            I know nothing about the case, but if this is just an instance of the authorities assuming the husband did it based on how these cases often turn out, rather than there being any evidence against him, then the system is certainly culpable to some degree.
            Yep. You don't know.

            There was a lot of circumstantial evidence that Josh killed his wife. There was the crazy camping trip in the middle of the night and a fan set up to dry the carpet. And he wasn't a fit parent because of the aspersions he cast and allowed his father to cast on Susan (that she was promiscuous and ran off) and the fact that he obstructed the search.

            This confirms that the judge was right to give custody to Susan's parents. And in my mind Josh has just confirmed that he is a violent, sick bastard and that he killed his wife.

            There are times to rail against overreaching by the government and to promote civil rights, but this isn't one of those times. Too bad they couldn't get Josh in prison soon enough. And whoever wrote this comment is defending the murder of 2 innocent kids. So yeah I would say he's wrong, yeah.

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            • creekster
              It is NOT a monkey!
              • Nov 2008
              • 22661

              #21
              Originally posted by woot View Post
              Is it wrong? I know nothing about the case, but if this is just an instance of the authorities assuming the husband did it based on how these cases often turn out, rather than there being any evidence against him, then the system is certainly culpable to some degree.
              Nope. You are simply wrong here. The system worked and nothing about it made josh powell do this other than his own demented selfishness and perhaps his gulty conscience. To attribute this to a Judge or the system is ridiculous.
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • Color Me Badd Fan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 12519

                #22
                Originally posted by woot View Post
                Is it wrong? I know nothing about the case, but if this is just an instance of the authorities assuming the husband did it based on how these cases often turn out, rather than there being any evidence against him, then the system is certainly culpable to some degree.
                They have evidence, just probably not enough to convict. There's a different standard in place when you're talking about maintaining custody of children. And from the way things turned out, there's a good reason for that. It's strange to blame the authorities for "not having any evidence right after the guy demonstrated the worst possible scenario of what could happen when you give custody to a guy that is suspected of murder but the state can't meet the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard.
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                • woot
                  Resident Science Cop
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5531

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                  Yep. You don't know.

                  There was a lot of circumstantial evidence that Josh killed his wife. There was the crazy camping trip in the middle of the night and a fan set up to dry the carpet. And he wasn't a fit parent because of the aspersions he cast and allowed his father to cast on Susan (that she was promiscuous and ran off) and the fact that he obstructed the search.

                  This confirms that the judge was right to give custody to Susan's parents. And in my mind Josh has just confirmed that he is a violent, sick bastard and that he killed his wife.

                  There are times to rail against overreaching by the government and to promote civil rights, but this isn't one of those times. Too bad they couldn't get Josh in prison soon enough. And whoever wrote this comment is defending the murder of 2 innocent kids. So yeah I would say he's wrong, yeah.
                  Fair enough.

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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #24
                    I told my wife. She became emotional.
                    Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                    • Viking
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 6470

                      #25
                      Originally posted by woot View Post
                      Maybe those CBers are the ones who should be locked up.
                      I just don't understand the CB sentiment. If the mormon version is correct that there was a pre-existance and the sons/daughters of god fought to live life and have agency, how could one reconcile that two young children being killed by their father is a "heavenly" outcome (as one suggests there)?

                      I might expect that out of a cult like the Heaven's Gate people, not Mormons.

                      It seems that children of tragic circumstance should be put out of their misery under their line of thinking. That's just nuts. I mean NUTS.

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                      • Maximus
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 6003

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Viking View Post
                        Front post on Cougarboard: "Sadly, those children are much better off now. (nm) "

                        That's bullshit. Those kids are better off alive and with an opportunity to see the sun rise each day and live their lives.
                        most people on cb responded to said post just like you did.

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                        • Surfah
                          Where's Wallace?
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 33726

                          #27
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          I told my wife. She became emotional.
                          I just told Gidget and she replied thanks for ruining my day.
                          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                          -Turtle
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                          • San Juan Sun
                            Kicked to the curb
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9214

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            I just told Gidget and she replied thanks for ruining my day.
                            I just told my wife and she said "sadly, those kids are in a better place now."
                            "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                            - Ty Cobb

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                            • Viking
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 6470

                              #29
                              Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                              I just told my wife and she said "sadly, those kids are in a better place now."
                              Would they be better off at their grandparent's house right now?

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                              • San Juan Sun
                                Kicked to the curb
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9214

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Viking View Post
                                Would they be better off at their grandparent's house right now?
                                Wait one minute, I'll ask her.
                                "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                                - Ty Cobb

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