Romney for POTUS: The thread that makes the case and gives neutrality the finger

[Color Me Badd Fan]

The interpretation is open for all kinds of monkey business. The way the numbers are collected and reported has remained the same. I'm calling out Ox for his calling those numbers 'fraudulent' today. There is nothing fraudulent about them. We have known about the limitations of those numbers as a reflection of the economic situation from day one. It isn't like anyone is trying to fix the books.

Anyhow, the labor force participation rate is going to change over time. I'm not sure why we would expect it to remain the same in a free market system. But if you really want to skew the numbers against Obama, why not just include everyone who doesn't have a job? Housewives and adult students... just include everyone that could work, but doesn't, and you will get an unemployment rate closer to 50%.

People were complaining about the computation of these numbers back in 2008 when Bush was still president and the recession was in full swing. I think tinkering could occur with the numbers relating to people that aren't looking for work -- but I don't think that's happening. I don't think Obama is exerting influence on the BLS. And what's good for the goose is good for the gander, because once people that have given up instead start looking for jobs again, that unemployment number is going to shoot up. 230k jobs is not enough to really draw the unemployment down when all factors are considered (those presently unemployed, those that have given up and those that are underemployed).

[oxcoug]

This thread cld easily be retitled "pull your heads out of your effing arses, Republicans."

Here's the deal: I hear a lot of carping (including among my own family) about Mitt's lack of a "core philosophy."

Here's all the "core philosophy" anyone shld care about right now:

Romney has been a budget-balancing deficit hawk his entire life. He's rescued major entities from debt in three impressive instances. First when he took over Bain & Company in 1991, second as the head of the Olympics and third as gov of MA. In each of those phases he took a symbolic $1 salary and showed a willingness to go down to the nitty gritty to eliminate deficits - (things right down to making employees pay for individual slices of pizzas that were ordered in for staff at the SLC Olympics).... and he's lived his personal life, by all accts, with similar frugality.

That's a core philosophy that America needs right now. Hell, in the near future it's the ONLY core philosophy we shld care about.

Mitt's been terrible about making this argument which should have been his ENTIRE argument all along. But Republicans are worse for not doing enough homework to understand that this is who he is and this is why he is ideally suited to this American moment.

But ***k it - let's elect the guy who hates gays, loves earmarks, wants to outlaw "sodomy" and has plans to lecture us all on birth control.

[SCcoug]

Here's the deal: I hear a lot of carping (including among my own family) about Mitt's lack of a "core philosophy."

Here's all the "core philosophy" anyone shld care about right now:

Romney has been a budget-balancing deficit hawk his entire life. He's rescued major entities from debt in three impressive instances. First when he took over Bain & Company in 1991, second as the head of the Olympics and third as gov of MA. In each of those phases he took a symbolic $1 salary and showed a willingness to go down to the nitty gritty to eliminate deficits - (things right down to making employees pay for individual slices of pizzas that were ordered in for staff at the SLC Olympics).... and he's lived his personal life, by all accts, with similar frugality.

That's a core philosophy that America needs right now. Hell, in the near future it's the ONLY core philosophy we shld care about.

Mitt's been terrible about making this argument which should have been his ENTIRE argument all along. But Republicans are worse for not doing enough homework to understand that this is who he is and this is why he is ideally suited to this American moment.

But ***k it - let's elect the guy who hates gays, loves earmarks, wants to outlaw "sodomy" and has plans to lecture us all on birth control.

Agree, Mitt needs to hit this drum from now until November. Santorum was an big earmarker. Even if the economy shows some signs of life before the election that won't change the massive deficits or check the growth of government. Forget everything else because it is a sideshow. Start quoting per capita government debt, pick a few egregious examples of government waste under Santorum/Obama, have a few examples of government spending/programs that will be cut. Make every stump speech about eliminating the deficit and getting spending under control.

[SCcoug]

Another thing Mitt should focus on is regulation. The Economist has an excellent article on the subject.

At 848 pages, it is 23 times longer than Glass-Steagall, the reform that followed the Wall Street crash of 1929. Worse, every other page demands that regulators fill in further detail. Some of these clarifications are hundreds of pages long...

Those who have struggle to make sense of it, not least because so much detail has yet to be filled in: of the 400 rules it mandates, only 93 have been finalised. So financial firms in America must prepare to comply with a law that is partly unintelligible and partly unknowable.

Every hour spent treating a patient in America creates at least 30 minutes of paperwork, and often a whole hour. Next year the number of federally mandated categories of illness and injury for which hospitals may claim reimbursement will rise from 18,000 to 140,000. There are nine codes relating to injuries caused by parrots, and three relating to burns from flaming water-skis.

A study for the Small Business Administration, a government body, found that regulations in general add $10,585 in costs per employee. It’s a wonder the jobless rate isn’t even higher than it is.

[landpoke]

Saddest thread ever.

[YOhio]

Saddest thread ever.

The threads about tragedies, natural disasters, death and murder are more sad, IMO.

[DU Ute]

The threads about tragedies, natural disasters, death and murder are more sad, IMO.

The Jimmer thread is getting pretty sad as well.

[YOhio]

The Jimmer thread is getting pretty sad as well.

No kidding. The natives are even turning on TJ. Did you know he made Jimmer sign a contract to commit himself to playing in the NBA? He also took Jimmer to play in prison to toughen him up. That's a good brother for you.

[oxcoug]

Romney up by four on Obama in latest Gallup

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152918/Ro...tionally.aspx?

Obama is entirely beatable.

[Moliere]

Romney up by four on Obama in latest Gallup

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152918/Ro...tionally.aspx?

Obama is entirely beatable.

[myboynoah]

How many of these stories are out there?

Let the cat out of the bag, Romney team

Mitt is like some kind of mondern-day super-hero.

[oxcoug]

How many of these stories are out there?

Let the cat out of the bag, Romney team

Mitt is like some kind of mondern-day super-hero.

More right here actually - http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/05...ws-romney-web/

Tremendous article.

[frank ryan]

Where are all the threads dedicated to Harry Reid's awesomeness? Does he have to speak at Liberty for him to get one?

[myboynoah]

Where are all the threads dedicated to Harry Reid's awesomeness? Does he have to speak at Liberty for him to get one?

Nope, he just needs frank to start it. Count me in as a supporter.

[YOhio]

Where are all the threads dedicated to Harry Reid's awesomeness? Does he have to speak at Liberty for him to get one?

Here you go:

http://cougaruteforum.com/showthread...highlight=reid

http://cougaruteforum.com/showthread...highlight=reid

http://cougaruteforum.com/showthread...highlight=reid

http://cougaruteforum.com/showthread...highlight=reid

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