Updated Prop 8 exit polling?

[Tim]

I was on my way to the office a tad late today, and I had the Diane Rehm Show on the radio. I normally don't listen to her because (while I have compassion for what she's been through) I can't deal with her voice. Today, though, the first thing I heard was the guest saying that initial exit polling of Prop 8 voters in California indicated that 70% of black voters had supported Prop 8, but that the actual numbers (or maybe it was updated polling after the fact) have shown that the correct number was somewhere between 56% and 58%. She concluded, then, that it was religion and age that largely tended to determine support of Prop 8 in California, not including race.

Has anyone seen or heard any other statements like this? Any references?

I should point out that the topic wasn't Prop 8 itself, but support for gay marriage in Washington, DC, where the largely-black District Council has just voted 12-0 to acknowledge gay marriages performed elsewhere.

[SeattleUte]

I was on my way to the office a tad late today, and I had the Diane Rehm Show on the radio. I normally don't listen to her because (while I have compassion for what she's been through) I can't deal with her voice. Today, though, the first thing I heard was the guest saying that initial exit polling of Prop 8 voters in California indicated that 70% of black voters had supported Prop 8, but that the actual numbers (or maybe it was updated polling after the fact) have shown that the correct number was somewhere between 56% and 58%. She concluded, then, that it was religion and age that largely tended to determine support of Prop 8 in California, not including race.

Has anyone seen or heard any other statements like this? Any references?

I should point out that the topic wasn't Prop 8 itself, but support for gay marriage in Washington, DC, where the largely-black District Council has just voted 12-0 to acknowledge gay marriages performed elsewhere.

I think it's unfortunate these breakdowns by race were identified and published in the first place; the exit polling numbers are by definition far from precise indicators of what really happened among all voters, needless to say. But yes, a lot of anti-social nonsense is the price we pay for freedom of speech. It WAS interesting to see Tex-types wrapping themselves in the mantle of AA support for Prop. 8.

Still, the important conclusion to be drawn from this episode is only reinforced by this new school of thought: It was not by and large an enlightened group that backed Prop. 8. By the way, 58% or 56% is not as high as 70% but it's still a big number. Let's be clear eyed about the problem here.

Meanwhile, the noose tightens on gay marriage opponents:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/08/us/08vermont.html

The lovely thing is that this groundswell is entirely democratic, even overruling an executive's veto in Vermont. As the article notes, movements like this tend to move through the country like a wave. I think last election's Prop. 8 victory was built on a foundation of sand precisely because AA support was the but for cause of it. These strange bedfellows will not remain bedfellows for long.

[beelzebabette]

Still, the important conclusion to be drawn from this episode is only reinforced by this new school of thought: It was not by and large an enlightened group that backed Prop. 8...

I think last election's Prop. 8 victory was built on a foundation of sand precisely because AA support was the but for cause of it. These strange bedfellows will not remain bedfellows for long.

I don't follow your train of thought here. The AA vote (or, at least, all but 30-44% of it) is unenlightened?

[byu71]

It just isn't a subject I can get into. Since I as a member of the church consider a civil marriage as a second class marriage anyway, why should I care if Gays have one?

[SeattleUte]

I don't follow your train of thought here. The AA vote (or, at least, all but 30-44% of it) is unenlightened?

Please, I don't want to go over this again. Here are your search terms: tooblue; "visible minority."

[Mormon Red Death]

. I think last election's Prop. 8 victory was built on a foundation of sand

Even as an apostate your mormon primary experience can rear its head every now and then

[SeattleUte]

Even as an apostate your mormon primary experience can rear its head every now and then

I still read the Bible.

[beelzebabette]

Please, I don't want to go over this again. Here are your search terms: tooblue; "visible minority."

If this direction was an effort to beat me into a state of apathy rising from boredom, it worked.

[frank ryan]

I was on my way to the office a tad late today, and I had the Diane Rehm Show on the radio. I normally don't listen to her because (while I have compassion for what she's been through) I can't deal with her voice. Today, though, the first thing I heard was the guest saying that initial exit polling of Prop 8 voters in California indicated that 70% of black voters had supported Prop 8, but that the actual numbers (or maybe it was updated polling after the fact) have shown that the correct number was somewhere between 56% and 58%. She concluded, then, that it was religion and age that largely tended to determine support of Prop 8 in California, not including race.

Has anyone seen or heard any other statements like this? Any references?

I should point out that the topic wasn't Prop 8 itself, but support for gay marriage in Washington, DC, where the largely-black District Council has just voted 12-0 to acknowledge gay marriages performed elsewhere.

diane rehm has a weird speech problem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasmodic_dysphonia

that is why her voice is so strange and grating

[Hallelujah]

It just isn't a subject I can get into. Since I as a member of the church consider a civil marriage as a second class marriage anyway, why should I care if Gays have one?

Then your kids will be taught that the gay lifestyle is normal. Happening already around the country.