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  • #46
    Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
    If Hillary would take the VP slot, I think that would be huge for the ticket. I hope it happens.
    It's a pipe dream right now for Dems, but also shows that Obama is vulnerable. It won't happen though. The 2012 branded gear already says Obama/Biden.

    Put me in the same camp as many others that really, really, like Biden as a VP. The guy fills the role better than Dan Quayle.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • #47
      I'm doubling down on the Rubio/VP bet. He continues to say the politic thing about intending to serve out his Senate term, but the nature and timing of his Mitt endorsement this evening is squarely in line with someone who could (and based on what I know so far, should) be tapped for the slot. I also think he would mop the floor with Biden in a debate.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
        Unless there is a continuation of the economic meltdown? You do realize that the economy is worse today than when Obamao took office, no?
        Based on what?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
          I'm doubling down on the Rubio/VP bet. He continues to say the politic thing about intending to serve out his Senate term, but the nature and timing of his Mitt endorsement this evening is squarely in line with someone who could (and based on what I know so far, should) be tapped for the slot. I also think he would mop the floor with Biden in a debate.
          So would Christie.
          "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Pelado View Post
            So would Christie.
            So would most of us. Unfortunately, it's usually not the bottom of the ticket that wins or loses an election.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by calicoug View Post
              Based on what?
              Higher unemployment.
              Higher gas prices.
              Higher grocery prices.
              Higher prices for pretty much everything.
              Also that housing market is in worse shape.

              Are you saying that the economy is better than it was after President Obama was inaugurated?
              Last edited by Utah ma'am am I; 03-28-2012, 11:18 PM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Utah ma'am am I View Post
                Higher unemployment.
                Higher gas prices.
                Higher grocery prices.
                Higher prices for pretty much everything.
                Also that housing market is in worse shape.

                Are you saying that the economy is better than it was after President Obama was inaugurated?
                Is this really Utah ma'am or do we have a surfah/gidget situation here?
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by falafel View Post
                  Is this really Utah ma'am or do we have a surfah/gidget situation here?
                  Yeah, I fear that IPU's worlds have collided. Not good. Not good at all.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • #54
                    When the Supreme Court shreds up Obamacare, it will be fun watching Obama run on this great record that Cali keeps on telling us about. That singular achievement of torching $800 billion will deliver the election.
                    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                    • #55
                      WashPo weighs in on the veepstakes. Who else should be on the list?


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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                        WashPo weighs in on the veepstakes.
                        Pawlenty - nice idea, competent guy but brings no energy to a ticket that wld be 100% stiff north-state white guy. I say nil on his chances.

                        Same with Thune but moreso - never gonna get it. Ryan presents some of the same problems though he might have enough of a profile to overcome it. Christie is a wild card and cld be considered. Bob McDonnell - again with the stereotypical white guy when there are people who are just as qualified but bring a minority onto the ticket.

                        Daniels - just slightly better but again - the Republicans can't go all wonky white guy in this election. There's a closing window for the R party to broaden their base and there are too many qualified minority candidates in the field this time to not go that route.



                        I see it like this, and I'll be very surprised if any of the whities other than Ryan or Christie are seriously considered (I know people like to buzz abt Portman but I just don't see it happening - not enough national profile to justify putting a House Rep from OH on the ticket):

                        1. Rubio - might need a bit additional vetting but seems to be the no brainer frontrunner if he will accept.
                        2. Martinez (WaPo says "relative unknown" which is true in some senses but not in others - she's a 3-term DA with plenty of vettable material on the record, no Sarah Palin).
                        3. Fortuno - popular, charismatic, smart, Hispanic as hell - only drawback wld be that PR doesn't deliver so much electoral clout. High risk high reward pick.
                        4. Jindal - incredibly smart, incredibly effective, nice geo balance - just lacks the energy the ticket might need.

                        I'd add Sandoval here but he's pro-choice and the base wld be furious given Romney's spotty history on the issue.
                        Last edited by oxcoug; 03-31-2012, 01:14 PM.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                          Pawlenty - nice idea, competent guy but brings no energy to a ticket that wld be 100% stiff north-state white guy. I say nil on his chances.

                          Same with Thune but moreso - never gonna get it. Ryan presents some of the same problems though he might have enough of a profile to overcome it. Christie is a wild card and cld be considered. Bob McDonnell - again with the stereotypical white guy when there are people who are just as qualified but bring a minority onto the ticket.

                          Daniels - just slightly better but again - the Republicans can't go all wonky white guy in this election. There's a closing window for the R party to broaden their base and there are too many qualified minority candidates in the field this time to not go that route.



                          I see it like this, and I'll be very surprised if any of the whities other than Ryan or Christie are seriously considered (I know people like to buzz abt Portman but I just don't see it happening - not enough national profile to justify putting a House Rep from OH on the ticket):

                          1. Rubio - might need a bit additional vetting but seems to be the no brainer frontrunner if he will accept.
                          2. Martinez (WaPo says "relative unknown" which is true in some senses but not in others - she's a 3-term DA with plenty of vettable material on the record, no Sarah Palin).
                          3. Fortuno - popular, charismatic, smart, Hispanic as hell - only drawback wld be that PR doesn't deliver so much electoral clout. High risk high reward pick.
                          4. Jindal - incredibly smart, incredibly effective, nice geo balance - just lacks the energy the ticket might need.

                          I'd add Sandoval here but he's pro-choice and the base wld be furious given Romney's spotty history on the issue.
                          You have forgotten, apparently, that I told you Chris Christie has already been chosen.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                            3. Fortuno - popular, charismatic, smart, Hispanic as hell
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                              Pawlenty - nice idea, competent guy but brings no energy to a ticket that wld be 100% stiff north-state white guy. I say nil on his chances.

                              Same with Thune but moreso - never gonna get it. Ryan presents some of the same problems though he might have enough of a profile to overcome it. Christie is a wild card and cld be considered. Bob McDonnell - again with the stereotypical white guy when there are people who are just as qualified but bring a minority onto the ticket.

                              Daniels - just slightly better but again - the Republicans can't go all wonky white guy in this election. There's a closing window for the R party to broaden their base and there are too many qualified minority candidates in the field this time to not go that route.



                              I see it like this, and I'll be very surprised if any of the whities other than Ryan or Christie are seriously considered (I know people like to buzz abt Portman but I just don't see it happening - not enough national profile to justify putting a House Rep from OH on the ticket):

                              1. Rubio - might need a bit additional vetting but seems to be the no brainer frontrunner if he will accept.
                              2. Martinez (WaPo says "relative unknown" which is true in some senses but not in others - she's a 3-term DA with plenty of vettable material on the record, no Sarah Palin).
                              3. Fortuno - popular, charismatic, smart, Hispanic as hell - only drawback wld be that PR doesn't deliver so much electoral clout. High risk high reward pick.
                              4. Jindal - incredibly smart, incredibly effective, nice geo balance - just lacks the energy the ticket might need.

                              I'd add Sandoval here but he's pro-choice and the base wld be furious given Romney's spotty history on the issue.
                              My guess is that it's Ryan or Rubio, slight edge to Rubio because of his prodigious political talent and Hispanic heritage -- both things the GOP really needs this year. Ryan is very attractive and articulate and would energize the base without being a Tea Party nut, but is just a bit wonkish, like Mitt. Still, I'd be happy with either one.

                              My worry about Rubio is vetting. His Mormon background should not have come out the way it did. I wonder what else is lurking in his past that the left could exploit?
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by CJF View Post
                                Lol he has a post with tons of white stereotyping of the VP candidates and that is the only thing you notice?

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