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Michigan had a democratic govenor for 8 years before Snyder. Jennifer Granholm and she was a complete disaster. The absolute worst governor in history. Since Snyder has been in office unemployment has gone from 11.3% to 8.3%. Michigan has a balanced budget (from a 1.5 billion dollar deficit) and he has stepped in with emergency financial management where cities (Mainly Detroit) couldnt do it."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
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Allegedly Romney has now "locked" his list at seven, with the following contenders:
Senator of Florida – Marco Rubio
Senator of Ohio – Rob Portman
Senator of New Hampshire – Kelly Ayotte
Governor of New Jersey – Chris Christie
Governor of Minnesota – Tim Pawlenty
House of Representative of Washington State – Cathy McMorris Rodgers
Governor of Louisiana – Bobby Jindal
http://race42012.com/2012/05/31/the-...ning-update-2/
Not sure I buy it, but most of my top choices are there. I still say Rubio or Jindal is the best choice. Jindal is a slightly better substance pick Rubio a better optics pick. But both are excellent picks.
I am very much convinced that the Republican Party is at a key inflection point where they have to be thinking 10-15 years ahead and updating the Party's image to put women and minorities in national leadership roles. If they don't do so then their image will calcify as Hispanics and other minorities coalesce as Dems, much like African Americans now are.
This priority would be a non-thing if there were not exceptionally qualified minority options out there - but both Rubio and Jindal are stars who can handle the VP role, the campaign role, while beginning the shift.
I'll be pretty disappointed if Romney puts Portman on the ticket.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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BTW, this isn't just a ethnicity / race thing it's also a generational thing - Rubio can make the Republican case to younger voters in a way that a Romney, a Portman or a Daniels cannot.Originally posted by oxcoug View PostAllegedly Romney has now "locked" his list at seven, with the following contenders:
Senator of Florida – Marco Rubio
Senator of Ohio – Rob Portman
Senator of New Hampshire – Kelly Ayotte
Governor of New Jersey – Chris Christie
Governor of Minnesota – Tim Pawlenty
House of Representative of Washington State – Cathy McMorris Rodgers
Governor of Louisiana – Bobby Jindal
http://race42012.com/2012/05/31/the-...ning-update-2/
Not sure I buy it, but most of my top choices are there. I still say Rubio or Jindal is the best choice. Jindal is a slightly better substance pick Rubio a better optics pick. But both are excellent picks.
I am very much convinced that the Republican Party is at a key inflection point where they have to be thinking 10-15 years ahead and updating the Party's image to put women and minorities in national leadership roles. If they don't do so then their image will calcify as Hispanics and other minorities coalesce as Dems, much like African Americans now are.
This priority would be a non-thing if there were not exceptionally qualified minority options out there - but both Rubio and Jindal are stars who can handle the VP role, the campaign role, while beginning the shift.
I'll be pretty disappointed if Romney puts Portman on the ticket.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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My heart is with Rubio and I think he'd energize the base and the electorate generally. My only hesitation is that Mitt keeps saying his top priority is to select someone who is ready to be POTUS, and Rubio's a 2-year senator. Yeah, Obama was one too.... But one of the main knocks on Obama is that he was not ready and it shows.Originally posted by oxcoug View PostBTW, this isn't just a ethnicity / race thing it's also a generational thing - Rubio can make the Republican case to younger voters in a way that a Romney, a Portman or a Daniels cannot.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
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WTF? No Gary Herbert?Originally posted by oxcoug View PostAllegedly Romney has now "locked" his list at seven, with the following contenders:
Senator of Florida – Marco Rubio
Senator of Ohio – Rob Portman
Senator of New Hampshire – Kelly Ayotte
Governor of New Jersey – Chris Christie
Governor of Minnesota – Tim Pawlenty
House of Representative of Washington State – Cathy McMorris Rodgers
Governor of Louisiana – Bobby Jindal
http://race42012.com/2012/05/31/the-...ning-update-2/
Not sure I buy it, but most of my top choices are there. I still say Rubio or Jindal is the best choice. Jindal is a slightly better substance pick Rubio a better optics pick. But both are excellent picks.
I am very much convinced that the Republican Party is at a key inflection point where they have to be thinking 10-15 years ahead and updating the Party's image to put women and minorities in national leadership roles. If they don't do so then their image will calcify as Hispanics and other minorities coalesce as Dems, much like African Americans now are.
This priority would be a non-thing if there were not exceptionally qualified minority options out there - but both Rubio and Jindal are stars who can handle the VP role, the campaign role, while beginning the shift.
I'll be pretty disappointed if Romney puts Portman on the ticket.
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Being VP for 4 years I think would suffice...Originally posted by LA Ute View PostMy heart is with Rubio and I think he'd energize the base and the electorate generally. My only hesitation is that Mitt keeps saying his top priority is to select someone who is ready to be POTUS, and Rubio's a 2-year senator. Yeah, Obama was one too.... But one of the main knocks on Obama is that he was not ready and it shows.
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You have a lot of preposterous assumptions here.Originally posted by calicoug View Post
For the deficit, it's only an issue to me in the long term. Deficit spending is critical during a recession. Countercyclical economic policy works best. Ask Europe how austerity is working to get them out of their slump. Long term, the deficit is likely to fix itself if we do almost nothing. The Bush tax cuts would be repealed automatically, the economy will eventually pick up more steam (increasing tax revenues), the troops are coming home from Afghanistan and already mostly home from Iraq, etc. Those items alone erase the deficit and then some. There are lots of things we can do to speed it up and we should do them.
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No doubt. Better question: Ask Europe why they have been so timid abt balancing budgets and addressing entitlement issues.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostYou have a lot of preposterous assumptions here.
Can we come up with a less silly word for fiscally responsible public finances? It's a pretty loaded term at this point and is intended to evoke fear of financial pain.
Let's just start saying "reality" instead of "austerity" - nothing Europe has done to date can objectively be called "austere."Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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Like assuming that Europe has actually been austere.Originally posted by calicoug View PostLike what?Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostYou have a lot of preposterous assumptions here.Where to begin? Let's start with the highlighted items:Originally posted by calicoug View PostLike what?
Europe has yet to try austerity - they haven't really lowered spending at all.Originally posted by calicoug View PostFor the deficit, it's only an issue to me in the long term. Deficit spending is critical during a recession. Countercyclical economic policy works best. Ask Europe how austerity is working to get them out of their slump. Long term, the deficit is likely to fix itself if we do almost nothing. The Bush tax cuts would be repealed automatically, the economy will eventually pick up more steam (increasing tax revenues), the troops are coming home from Afghanistan and already mostly home from Iraq, etc. Those items alone erase the deficit and then some. There are lots of things we can do to speed it up and we should do them.
The deficit will not fix itself - it will require the politicians to a) Spend less than they have or b) Slow the rate of spending increases and/or c) Increase tax receipts.
Raising tax rates will not necessarily increase tax receipts. Economic growth will raise tax receipts, but is hampered by tax increases and uncertainty.
Troops coming home will reduce costs, but not nearly to the extent needed."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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Bwaa HA HA!!
I actually like Ron Paul! Don't like his supporters. Although Romney picking Rand APul makes some sense.( FYI I most likely wrote that incoherently and will be properly corrected forthwith. Thanks)
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I happens all the time, and I wish it was unique to liberals. People draw silly conclusions because they are to ignorant or lazy to do the math. As a result we have our leaders saying stupid stuff that gets passed down: Taxing the rich will eliminate the deficit, properly inflated tires will eliminate our dependency on Middle Eastern Oil, peeing on our gardens will eliminate our need to water them, etc.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostYou have a lot of preposterous assumptions here.sigpic
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October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
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