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  • swampfrog
    Social Distance Warrior
    • Feb 2011
    • 2267

    #2461
    Originally posted by Now who’s the dean? View Post
    What? The whole story is about protesters not allowing journalists to film.
    Agreed. Given the nature of the story, it's much stronger with footage.

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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 37910

      #2462
      Originally posted by Now who’s the dean? View Post
      What? The whole story is about protesters not allowing journalists to film.
      If they aren't allowed to film, would there be any film?
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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      • Clark Addison
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 10298

        #2463
        Originally posted by falafel View Post
        If they aren't allowed to film, would there be any film?
        Pretty sure there is no "film" regardless

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        • Now who’s the dean?
          Pretty Good Guy
          • Aug 2020
          • 567

          #2464
          Originally posted by falafel View Post
          If they aren't allowed to film, would there be any film?
          You serious?

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          • swampfrog
            Social Distance Warrior
            • Feb 2011
            • 2267

            #2465
            From a local Portland paper. Interviews of several videographer's experience in the streets. Pretty extended and balanced look into the competing narratives.



            Amid this atmosphere, two different storylines compete for Portlanders' acceptance.

            The first is that police officers are battering the citizens they're charged to protect, and elected officials have an obligation to yield to protesters' demands and cut the bureau's funding.

            The other is that the protests have lost sight of the goals of the Black Lives Matter movement and devolved into anarchy, and city leaders must either persuade rioters to go home, or arrest and jail them until their will is broken.

            These dueling narratives are irreconcilable. They cannot co-exist peacefully, any more than the protesters and police can.

            And both are driven by video footage.

            Decades before most of the people in Portland's streets were born, academic Marshall McLuhan coined a phrase: "The medium is the message." That is, the way in which people receive information is just as important as its content.

            The way Americans learn about clashes at Portland protests is from videos—delivered to their phones within minutes of each conflict. And no medium is so well suited to heightening outrage.

            A single video can unleash a tsunami of indignation and reshape a city's politics. That can be a force for reform: The national uprising against police brutality began with footage of an officer killing George Floyd. But it can also work in the other direction.

            Anyone with a Wi-Fi signal can scroll through the most shocking incidents in Portland's streets the way basketball fans watch game highlights. And like fans, people on both ends of the political spectrum can pick the feeds that favor their team.
            Azar rarely films protesters' faces, except when they're being arrested. She doesn't film people engaged in "direct actions"—that is, spraying graffiti or setting dumpster fires. She says such footage would eventually wind up in the possession of police or right-wing demonstrators who would use it to harass people online.That decision doesn't square easily with the journalistic ideal of presenting all the actions of people you cover, however unflattering. To further complicate matters, some of the more radical protesters have threatened to smash the equipment of those who do film faces.

            Some of the videographers contend that filming everything protesters do would make them little more than unpaid police informants on their own sources, and that their primary responsibility is to hold public agencies accountable. But it's hardly a universal position: Other videographers say their duty is to broadcast all newsworthy events, even if that sends somebody to jail. And lately, conservative activists have appeared in the press ranks, making Portland part of a circuit they travel to expose the excesses of leftist demonstrators.

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69559

              #2466
              Originally posted by swampfrog View Post
              From a local Portland paper. Interviews of several videographer's experience in the streets. Pretty extended and balanced look into the competing narratives.

              https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/09/0...aming-streets/
              Portland is such a mess.

              Blocking people from filming infuriates me.
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              • smokymountainrain
                Impressive Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 22593

                #2467
                this story about the 13 year old autistic kid (white kid, ftr) police shot while running away could get interesting as more details come out.

                https://www.ksl.com/article/50015045...oy-with-autism
                I'm like LeBron James.
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                • Jarid in Cedar
                  CS Institutional Memory
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 13234

                  #2468
                  Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                  this story about the 13 year old autistic kid (white kid, ftr) police shot while running away could get interesting as more details come out.

                  https://www.ksl.com/article/50015045...oy-with-autism
                  I saw that last night. It was a rough read.
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                  • Northwestcoug
                    Cocked and Loaded
                    • May 2011
                    • 17950

                    #2469
                    Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                    this story about the 13 year old autistic kid (white kid, ftr) police shot while running away could get interesting as more details come out.

                    https://www.ksl.com/article/50015045...oy-with-autism
                    That is an infuriating case. How does stuff like this continue to happen?

                    Put the guns down. Deescalate, please.
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                    • swampfrog
                      Social Distance Warrior
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2267

                      #2470
                      Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                      this story about the 13 year old autistic kid (white kid, ftr) police shot while running away could get interesting as more details come out.

                      https://www.ksl.com/article/50015045...oy-with-autism
                      That's a primary area where change is needed. Mental health calls where the caller can provide details of the exact situation that some authority figure is walking into. Minimal necessary force, including the visual of a uniformed cop coming in to assess. They can wait outside, around the block. Needs to start completely non-threatening.

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                      • PaloAltoCougar
                        Semper infra dignitatem
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 16921

                        #2471
                        On a lighter note, things continue to deteriorate in Gotham.

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                        • Non Sequitur
                          Where did I put my bodkin
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5773

                          #2472
                          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                          On a lighter note, things continue to deteriorate in Gotham.

                          Please tell me that's not THE Rex Chapman.
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                          • smokymountainrain
                            Impressive Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22593

                            #2473
                            Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                            Please tell me that's not THE Rex Chapman.
                            it is THE rex chapman. posting funny videos (the block or charge videos) is kinda his thing these days.
                            I'm like LeBron James.
                            -mpfunk

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69559

                              #2474
                              Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                              it is THE rex chapman. posting funny videos (the block or charge videos) is kinda his thing these days.
                              He is a great follow.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • Harry Tic
                                I've Made a Huge Mistake.
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 1660

                                #2475
                                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                                it is THE rex chapman. posting funny videos (the block or charge videos) is kinda his thing these days.
                                He is funny and has become woke. I think the latter turn threw some of his followers for a loop.
                                Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
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