Adam and Steve can now get married in NY...

[Colly Wolly]

How could it possibly lead to less gay sex? they are going to have less when they are married?

Clearly you've never been married.

[bluegoose]

You're not one to pick and choose. There is no wiggle room on interpretations of the declarations of the prophets of God. I'm making a mental note not to business with any of the people who go to the temple, yet are not fully in support of the Church's fight against the legalization of gay marriage.

Good point. And I, in turn, will be making mental note of those people who go to the temple, yet are not fully in support of the Church's stance against anti-illegal immigration legislation.

[SteelBlue]

Good point. And I, in turn, will be making mental note of those people who go to the temple, yet are not fully in support of the Church's stance against anti-illegal immigration legislation.

I've been mentally noting those who go into debt for things other than an education or a modest home for several years now.

[Maximus]

Clearly you've never been married.

hmm for me non married=no sex married=sex

[Babs]

hmm for me non married=no sex. married=sex

I don't think he meant theoretically.

[Colly Wolly]

hmm for me non married=no sex married=sex

Clearly you aren't gay.... or are you?

[Flystripper]

I am really happy about this. One more step forward.

[U-Ute]

Rome fell because people were more interested in when and were the gladiatorial bouts would be on display than the corruption and lies in their own government.

Speaking of which, any updates on the NFL lockout?

[taekwondave]

Rome fell because people were more interested in when and were the gladiatorial bouts would be on display than the corruption and lies in their own government.

Speaking of which, any updates on the NFL lockout?

Hahahahaha, I like this one.

[Levin]

This has got to be my all-time favorite argument about keeping gay marriage illegal: that there were gay people in Rome.

You know, I was in Rome a couple of summers ago. You know what else they had? Water fountains. Water fountains EVERYWHERE. We better get on that. I was walking around downtown Provo just the other day and RIGHT there on the corner I saw one. Just sittin out there...like it was NORMAL!!! I'm telling you, guys, if we don't act fast, MORE of these...."water fountains" are going to pop up around us, and then boom; it's all over.

I'm using Rome more as a metaphor. You literalists need to expand your minds a little.

The interesting question to me is the one Cardiac raised: some view it as social progression, others as social decay. If you think it's a part of social decay, then its effects won't come quickly or soon, but a different society will emerge slowly, coupled with other changes, until eventually the foundation necessary for society's survival will be gone.

[TripletDaddy]

I'm using Rome more as a metaphor. You literalists need to expand your minds a little.

The interesting question to me is the one Cardiac raised: some view it as social progression, others as social decay. If you think it's a part of social decay, then its effects won't come quickly or soon, but a different society will emerge slowly, coupled with other changes, until eventually the foundation necessary for society's survival will be gone.

someone please wake me up when society crumbles. that is going to be an awkward day for homosexuals, blacks and whites that have intermingled, blacks in general, women that work, and a bevy of other social deviants that, at one point in time or another, were blamed for one thing or another.

[scottie]

someone please wake me up when society crumbles. that is going to be an awkward day for homosexuals, blacks and whites that have intermingled, blacks in general, women that work, and a bevy of other social deviants that, at one point in time or another, were blamed for one thing or another.

Also, since same sex marriage became legal in Massachusetts on May 17, 2004, Boston has enjoyed the following:

Patriots, 2005 Super Bowl champs (2004 season)
Red Sox, 2007 World Series champs
Celtics, 2008 NBA Finals champs
Bruins, 2011 Stanley Cup champs

[taekwondave]

I'm using Rome more as a metaphor. You literalists need to expand your minds a little.

The interesting question to me is the one Cardiac raised: some view it as social progression, others as social decay. If you think it's a part of social decay, then its effects won't come quickly or soon, but a different society will emerge slowly, coupled with other changes, until eventually the foundation necessary for society's survival will be gone.

Rome is used ad nauseum by the anti gay marriage crowd as justification for their position. I would have picked another metaphor.

[taekwondave]

Also, since same sex marriage became legal in Massachusetts on May 17, 2004, Boston has enjoyed the following:

Patriots, 2005 Super Bowl champs (2004 season)
Red Sox, 2007 World Series champs
Celtics, 2008 NBA Finals champs
Bruins, 2011 Stanley Cup champs

Hmm.... that is tough to argue with

[SoCalCoug]

My evil half hopes that the daughters of everyone who makes this argument end up marrying gay men who are struggling to be straight.

My good half hopes this. You don't want to know what my evil half hopes.