The 2012 Republican Primary thread, early edition

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  • cowboy
    Homer Weems
    • Dec 2008
    • 5740

    #1036
    For what it's worth, my wife and I are in Charleston and had a brief conversation with a couple from Georgia this morning. They are white and middle aged, and said Newt was their guy until he started his Bain bashing. Since then they switched to Romney because Newt "showed his colors as a spoiled rotten little kid." Apparently not everyone has switched back to Newt's ship yet.
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    "Outlined against a blue, gray
    October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
    Grantland Rice, 1924

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    • Maximus
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 6023

      #1037
      Man if mitt loses sc he could lose it all especially when newt owns the debates.

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      • LA Ute
        Receiver of Memory
        • Nov 2008
        • 19512

        #1038
        Originally posted by Maximus View Post
        Man if mitt loses sc he could lose it all especially when newt owns the debates.
        Maybe. Then again, he looks good in Florida and the others have no money. There are 10 TV markets in Florida; no one can win there without lots of money. He should win Nevada, Michigan, Minnesota, Maine, Colorado and Arizona. Then Super Tuesday is next. Who knows how that will go? So he may just be in for a long slog. I read somewhere that the hard-core conservatives want a brokered convention or at least one like 1976 that wasn't decided beforehand.
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        • Maximus
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 6023

          #1039
          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          Maybe. Then again, he looks good in Florida and the others have no money. There are 10 TV markets in Florida; no one can win there without lots of money. He should win Nevada, Michigan, Minnesota, Maine, Colorado and Arizona. Then Super Tuesday is next. Who knows how that will go? So he may just be in for a long slog. I read somewhere that the hard-core conservatives want a brokered convention or at least one like 1976 that wasn't decided beforehand.
          the longer it goes the more ammo Obama will have vs whomever is the nominee.

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          • pellegrino
            miserere me
            • Jan 2009
            • 12100

            #1040
            Originally posted by Maximus View Post
            the longer it goes the more ammo Obama will have vs whomever is the nominee.
            doubtful, but it does give Obama a shorter election period and keeps most of his campaign funds on the sideline until a nominee is declared or imminent.
            Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
            God forgives many things for an act of mercy
            Alessandro Manzoni

            Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

            pelagius

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            • Maximus
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 6023

              #1041
              Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
              doubtful, but it does give Obama a shorter election period and keeps most of his campaign funds on the sideline until a nominee is declared or imminent.
              I just think these debates provide more and more soundbites and attack ideas for Obama to use.

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              • myboynoah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 21719

                #1042
                Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                From Vanderbilt University:



                I don't think Mormons should whine about the bias against them among Southern Republican evangelicals, but it is a fact of political life. Just part of the landscape.
                Rick Santorum-backing pastor plays the 'Mormon cult' card

                "I know there have been many people who said they'd hold their nose and vote for Romney if he gets the nomination, but I'm not [one of them], I won't vote for him," Rev. Huey Mills, head of the South Carolina Association of Christian Schools, told The Hill blog site.

                Mills added that Mormonism "is a cult, most definitely."

                --------------------------------

                But Mills takes his concerns about Romney further, complaining that the front-running candidate isn't homophobic enough.

                "In obedience to the Judeo-Christian Scriptures, most South Carolinans and I have a sane and healthy homophobia, while Mitt Romney has a very bad case of homophilia," said Mills in a joint statement with fellow pastor, Rev. Ray Moore, according to The Hill. "Romney's liberal support for homosexuality is not only at doctrinal odds with traditional Judaism and Christianity, it's even at odds with latter-day cults like Islam and Mormonism."
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27886

                  #1043
                  I'm still bothered by the lack of concern over Newt's ethics violations. How is his run for president no different than if Richard Nixon ran again after being impeached? I know it's a simple comparison but it seems to work...for me.

                  Flabbergasting!
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Color Me Badd Fan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12519

                    #1044
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                    I'm still bothered by the lack of concern over Newt's ethics violations. How is his run for president no different than if Richard Nixon ran again after being impeached? I know it's a simple comparison but it seems to work...for me.

                    Flabbergasting!
                    The Tea Party is backing Newt. SC going for Newt is akin to the Tea Party pushing Crazy Eyes Angle and Christine O'Donnell to their respective nominations. They want to extract their pound of flesh more than they want to actually win which is utter foolishness.

                    John Hinderaker on Powerlineblog wrote last night that two things are abundantly clear right now: 1). Barack Obama is a terrible President and a vulnerable incumbent; and 2) Newt Gingrich will never be president of the United States.
                    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #1045
                      Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                      I'm still bothered by the lack of concern over Newt's ethics violations. How is his run for president no different than if Richard Nixon ran again after being impeached? I know it's a simple comparison but it seems to work...for me.

                      Flabbergasting!
                      If you are bothered by ethics violations then you should vote for Ron Paul. It is the right thing for a Texan to do.

                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Moliere
                        One man.....one pie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 27886

                        #1046
                        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        If you are bothered by ethics violations then you should vote for Ron Paul. It is the right thing for a Texan to do.

                        If he gets the nomination then I will.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • RobinFinderson
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10548

                          #1047
                          Wow... by the end of South Carolina, Mitt might only have won the LEAST populated and LEAST strategically significant of the three primaries. Newt is unelectable, and would be an absolute gift to Obama. GOP voters are just not thinking about what three months of shining a spotlight on all of Newt's dirt is going to do to his popularity. He will be crushed.

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                          • RobinFinderson
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10548

                            #1048
                            Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                            If you are bothered by ethics violations then you should vote for Ron Paul. It is the right thing for a Texan to do.

                            Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate I would vote for over Obama.

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                            • byu71
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22070

                              #1049
                              Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                              Wow... by the end of South Carolina, Mitt might only have won the LEAST populated and LEAST strategically significant of the three primaries. Newt is unelectable, and would be an absolute gift to Obama. GOP voters are just not thinking about what three months of shining a spotlight on all of Newt's dirt is going to do to his popularity. He will be crushed.
                              Gee, i agree with one of RF's posts.

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                              • CardiacCoug
                                вот так штука
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11013

                                #1050
                                Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                                Wow... by the end of South Carolina, Mitt might only have won the LEAST populated and LEAST strategically significant of the three primaries. Newt is unelectable, and would be an absolute gift to Obama. GOP voters are just not thinking about what three months of shining a spotlight on all of Newt's dirt is going to do to his popularity. He will be crushed.
                                Mitt is going to blast Newt with negative ads in Florida and take that primary and get some momentum. This is definitely going to drag on for a while but I still think Mitt gets the nomination in the end.

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