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  • Not exactly a Kitty Hawk moment, but technically a step toward commercial fusion power.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/for-the...ed-by-the-fuel
    https://physics.aps.org/articles/v14/168


    In an earlier post I talked about the target we are trying to hit, where the amount of energy put into the system is exceeded by the energy created by the fusion reaction ("Q>1"). So far, we have been able to create a fusion reaction, but only at an expense of energy that vastly exceeded the output. At Q>1, we reach or at least approach "ignition," the point at which energy output from the fusion process will be able to perpetuate the fusion reaction.

    This latest step has a very technical claim to reaching Q>1. They used a different process than most others (including Commonwealth Fusion, the entity that made the recent breakthrough in magnet technology). Instead of the tokamuk (donut) design, they fired lasers at a tiny capsule of hydrogen isotopes. This created conditions necessary to trigger a fusion reaction, which output a record 1.3 megajoules of energy. The fuel capsule generated over five times more energy than it absorbed from the lasers, technically meaning we had a result where more energy was generated by the fusion reaction than was absorbed by the fuel. As one physicist quoted in the second article put it, “the scientific demonstration of the ignition process has indeed been achieved.”

    This is a technical achievement, like I said, because the actual input from the lasers was 1.9 megajoules, exceeding the 1.3 megajoule output of the reaction. A lot of energy is lost between shooting the laser and reaching the fuel capsule. Creating the 1.9-MJ-laser input, moreover, required around 400 MJ of electricity.

    So, no ticker tape parades warranted just yet. We still have a long way to go even to get to the more meaningful sense of Q>1, where the energy outputs exceed the energy inputs-- much less the higher Q ratios where the outputs can power the reaction, and then generate excesses to put on the grid. But it's a step.
    Last edited by All-American; 12-08-2021, 09:14 AM.
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    • Fusion is always 15 years away.
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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Fusion is always 15 years away.
        Maybe. But a lot of people just bet a lot of money that they can make it happen.

        https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Ene...sion-Boom.html

        Maybe the reason fusion has always stayed fifteen years away is that we've never undertaken the fifteen-year journey of work, progress, and expense necessary to achieve it. Why would we, when it is still so much cheaper to turn a turbine by burning fossil fuel?

        But as that option becomes increasingly unfeasible, and the need for a carbon-neutral base generating option becomes increasingly great, maybe-- just maybe-- we will finally do what it takes to accomplish it.
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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          Fusion is always 15 years away.
          The state of Utah just needs to fund another cold fusion institute.

          Almost from day one, scientists criticized University of Utah officials for allegedly pushing Pons and Fleischmann into a news conference. Some say the scientific peer review was rushed because of worries about patent rights and fears that a BYU scientist would publish something similar first.
          https://www.ksl.com/article/29184874...mdash-and-died

          LOL... Blame it on BYU and Drumpf
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          • Originally posted by All-American View Post

            Maybe. But a lot of people just bet a lot of money that they can make it happen.

            https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Ene...sion-Boom.html

            Maybe the reason fusion has always stayed fifteen years away is that we've never undertaken the fifteen-year journey of work, progress, and expense necessary to achieve it. Why would we, when it is still so much cheaper to turn a turbine by burning fossil fuel?

            But as that option becomes increasingly unfeasible, and the need for a carbon-neutral base generating option becomes increasingly great, maybe-- just maybe-- we will finally do what it takes to accomplish it.
            This is akin to the argument I make to my e-vehicle antagonists at work. Yep, it's got some kinks, but it's the future, so we ought not to push back so hard on this. Especially when natural gas almost certainly will have a place in power generation for the next 50-100 years.
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            • LNG prices are currently around $35/MMbtu. By contracts, I pay around $4/MMbtu for natural gas delivered to my home. It's absolutely nuts that people are paying 10x more for gas in some places in the world.
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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                LNG prices are currently around $35/MMbtu. By contracts, I pay around $4/MMbtu for natural gas delivered to my home. It's absolutely nuts that people are paying 10x more for gas in some places in the world.
                Thank the progressives...

                Why Democrats Make Energy Expensive (And Dirty)
                Progressives say they care more about working people and climate change than Republicans and moderate Democrats. Why, then, do they advocate policies that make energy expensive and dirty?

                Progressive Democrats including Sen. Bernie Sanders and Rep. Pramila Jayapal, the head of the House progressive caucus, have sent a letter demanding the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) investigate whether “market manipulation” is causing natural gas prices to rise 30 percent on average for consumers over last winter, an astonishing $746 per household.

                But the main reason natural gas prices are rising is because progressives have been so successfully in restricting natural gas production. Sanders, Jayapal, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), as individuals and as part of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, have successful fought to restrict natural gas production through fracking and to block natural gas pipelines, including the Atlantic Coast pipeline.

                In 2020, Sanders celebrated efforts by progressives to cancel the Atlantic Coast pipeline. Today, New England is facing rolling blackouts. “Getting [natural] gas to [progressive Senators Ed] Markey and [Elizabeth] Warren’s Massachusetts is so difficult,” reports The Wall Street Journal, “that sometimes it comes into Boston Harbor on a tanker from Russia.”
                [...]
                Successful shareholder activism, known in the industry as “ESG” for environmental, social, and governance issues, resulted in less investment in oil and gas production, and more weather-dependent renewables, which result in higher prices everywhere they are deployed at scale. Even ESG champions including Financial Times, Goldman Sachs, and Bloomberg all now acknowledge that it was climate activist shareholder efforts that restricted oil and gas investment.

                Such efforts also directly led to increasing carbon emissions. Last year saw a whopping 17 percent increase in coal-fired electricity, which resulted in a six percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions. It was the first annual increase in coal use since 2014. The reason for it was because of the scarcity and higher price of natural gas, coal’s direct replacement, not just in the U.S. but globally, since the US exports a significant quantity of natural gas.

                The other reason the U.S. used more coal in 2021 is because progressive Democrats are shutting down nuclear plants. “When a nuclear plant is closed, it’s closed forever,” noted Mark Nelson of Radiant Energy Group, an energy analytics firm, “whereas coal plants can afford to operate at relatively low levels of capacity, like just 30 to 50 percent operation, and thus wait for natural gas prices, and thus demand for coal power, to rise.”

                Progressives like Sanders, Jayapal, and AOC claim to care more about poor people, working people, and climate change than either Republicans or moderate Democrats, who they defeat in Democratic primary elections. Why, then, do they advocate policies that make energy expensive and dirty?

                A big part of the reason progressives make energy expensive appears to be that they just don’t know very much about energy. The fact that they are demanding that FERC investigate higher prices suggests they want to keep energy prices low. But it could also mean that their letter is just public relations cover so they are not blamed for raising energy prices.
                [...]
                https://michaelshellenberger.substac...ergy-expensive

                LOL... Dems are a bunch energy dumbasses. God bless Texas for cheap NG.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                  Thank the progressives...


                  https://michaelshellenberger.substac...ergy-expensive

                  LOL... Dems are a bunch energy dumbasses. God bless Texas for cheap NG.


                  New England is literally burning oil to produce electricity. In fact, over the weekend 25% of their power came from burning oil. Who burns oil for power? What is this, the 1960s?

                  I also learned this year that we are literally importing LNG into New England. That’s crazy since right nest door to them is one of the largest gas fields in the world but they won’t allow pipelines to be built, so the bring it in on a boat. This mind blowing asinine stuff.

                  Many big banks are predicting $100+ oil this coming summer. I sincerely hope it doesn’t get there but I think it will. Usually when we get to $100 the world comes crashing down due to high cost of energy. However, oil companies can’t drill enough to keep up so I’m afraid we will get there and it might get ugly.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post



                    New England is literally burning oil to produce electricity. In fact, over the weekend 25% of their power came from burning oil. Who burns oil for power? What is this, the 1960s?

                    I also learned this year that we are literally importing LNG into New England. That’s crazy since right nest door to them is one of the largest gas fields in the world but they won’t allow pipelines to be built, so the bring it in on a boat. This mind blowing asinine stuff.

                    Many big banks are predicting $100+ oil this coming summer. I sincerely hope it doesn’t get there but I think it will. Usually when we get to $100 the world comes crashing down due to high cost of energy. However, oil companies can’t drill enough to keep up so I’m afraid we will get there and it might get ugly.
                    Texas should just mine Bitcoin with all its surplus NG and wind power out in west Texas.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Germany is bringing back good ole coal power...

                      Germany to fire up coal stations as Russia squeezes gas supply

                      Germany must reduce natural gas consumption and increase the burning of coal in order to help fill gas storage facilities for next winter, German Economy Minister Robert Habeck announced Sunday as the country moves away from reduced Russian gas supplies.

                      “The situation is serious,” Habeck said in a statement. “We are therefore continuing to strengthen precautions and taking additional measures to reduce gas consumption. This means that gas consumption must fall further, but more gas must be put into the storage facilities, otherwise things will really get tight in winter.”
                      [...]
                      https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/19/energ...ntl/index.html

                      But at least it is shutting down its nuke power.

                      Let me guess... Germany gets it coal from North Korea.
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        Germany is bringing back good ole coal power...


                        https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/19/energ...ntl/index.html

                        But at least it is shutting down its nuke power.

                        Let me guess... Germany gets it coal from North Korea.
                        Germany is a textbook example of stupidity when it comes to energy policy. They are now paying the price.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • Biden Seeks to Block New Offshore Drilling in Atlantic, Pacific - WSJ

                          But the plan is still being developed, and gives the administration several options—including one that would forgo new lease sales entirely, according to the Interior Department. Ultimately a final decision is months away.

                          Environmental groups blasted the plan and said they would push for the option with no new leasing. Some voiced concern the administration was backing away from President Biden’s pledge as a candidate to block new drilling on federal territory.
                          Just as the Big Oil CEOs said in their letters back to Biden, a clear and consistent energy policy would go a long way to more stable energy prices. Biden seems absolutely intent on speaking out of both sides of his mouth, which is why his polling numbers are horrendous.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            Biden Seeks to Block New Offshore Drilling in Atlantic, Pacific - WSJ



                            Just as the Big Oil CEOs said in their letters back to Biden, a clear and consistent energy policy would go a long way to more stable energy prices. Biden seems absolutely intent on speaking out of both sides of his mouth, which is why his polling numbers are horrendous.

                            You should be happy about this...

                            JPMorgan Sees ‘Stratospheric’ $380 Oil on Worst-Case Russian Cut

                            Global oil prices could reach a “stratospheric” $380 a barrel if US and European penalties prompt Russia to inflict retaliatory crude-output cuts, JPMorgan Chase & Co. analysts warned.

                            The Group of Seven nations are hammering out a complicated mechanism to cap the price fetched by Russian oil in a bid to tighten the screws on Vladimir Putin’s war machine in Ukraine. But given Moscow’s robust fiscal position, the nation can afford to slash daily crude production by 5 million barrels without excessively damaging the economy, JPMorgan analysts including Natasha Kaneva wrote in a note to clients.

                            For much of the rest of the world, however, the results could be disastrous. A 3 million-barrel cut to daily supplies would push benchmark London crude prices to $190, while the worst-case scenario of 5 million could mean “stratospheric” $380 crude, the analysts wrote.
                            [....]
                            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...se-russian-cut

                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • What does it take for Biden to turn the spigot on? Still cleaner than Iran, Venezuela or Russia. Does no one realize that Global Warming is well, global?

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                              • Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                                What does it take for Biden to turn the spigot on? Still cleaner than Iran, Venezuela or Russia. Does no one realize that Global Warming is well, global?
                                What spigot?
                                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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