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  • MartyFunkhouser
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    Utah takes the next step towards a super legislature unchecked by the judiciary.

    https://www.abc4.com/news/politics/i...anel-advances/

    The Utah Bar is largely opposed to most of the bills out there affecting the legislature. What we don't need (and the Utah Supreme Court and the bar has acknowledged this) is more Supreme Court justices. What we do need more district court judges and domestic relations commissioners. That is where the bottle neck is right now. In Utah County right now, you file a motion for a hearing before a Commissioner and you are lucky to get a hearing within 60 days. You might be 3-months out or more. Judges and Commissioners need more support staff.

    On the "Constitutional Court"

    We oppose this bill because it raises serious concerns about judicial independence by allowing the executive and legislative branches to appoint judges who may later hear cases involving those same branches. This bill fundamentally restructures how constitutional challenges to Utah laws are handled by centralizing them in a new, statewide trial court and limiting the ability of individual judges or local courts to block state laws through injunctions. The bill also diverts taxpayer dollars and limited judicial resources to create a new court structure that is unnecessary and risks undermining public confidence in the judiciary.
    https://www.abc4.com/news/politics/i...anel-advances/

    Proposing 67% for retention elections is insane. You are going to create a revolving door of judges.

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  • frank ryan
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    Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    Bill introduced to require the Jazz and Mammoth to allow concealed carry at games. I am sure nothing could possibly go wrong with that.
    Not very libertarian telling private entities what to do

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  • MartyFunkhouser
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    Bill introduced to require the Jazz and Mammoth to allow concealed carry at games. I am sure nothing could possibly go wrong with that.

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  • myboynoah
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    Gotta be honest. I just don't think this is a winning move.

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  • MartyFunkhouser
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    The things that the Utah legislature is attempting to do with the judiciary is just straight up evil. They are legit trying to remove the judiciaries check on the legislature and turn the entire judiciary into their yes man. It will create a super legislature.

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  • Clark Addison
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    Amazing that Mitt has both the highest favorable and highest unfavorable of anyone they asked about. MAGA-Utah is crazy.

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  • USUC
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    An interesting snapshot of where Utahns are right now. John Curtis the most popular politician in the state. Mike Lee still in the positive, but not by much.

    https://libertas.institute/press-rel...tah-2026-poll/

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  • USUC
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    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

    Didn't the Lt. Gov say that they need have an official map in hand by January for candidates to come forward? So, while the repub legs will appeal it, time is running out. I don't see how this can be overturned at this point, but I'm new to all of this.

    Quartering SL County between four districts was pretty bush league.
    The whole push for gerrymandering reform is essentially dead now. Texas and California essentially ended it.

    I wonder if this Utah proposition would pass if done today. There was enough ambiguity in how it was written when it was on the ballot 7 years ago. If this map stands, I expect a counter proposition in 2028... just when the GOP will be at its least popular in years.

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  • MartyFunkhouser
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    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

    Didn't the Lt. Gov say that they need have an official map in hand by January for candidates to come forward? So, while the repub legs will appeal it, time is running out. I don't see how this can be overturned at this point, but I'm new to all of this.

    Quartering SL County between four districts was pretty bush league.
    Yes that is bush league. You know what else is even more bush league, splitting Salt Lake City itself into multiple districts. I think they might have been able to get away with splitting up Salt Lake County, maybe even into 4 districts. But when you split up a city like they did, the intent is clear.

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  • myboynoah
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    Originally posted by USUC View Post

    Thank you for the clarification. So do you see this as an iron clad judgment that will be binding for the midterm elections? What so you think about the arguments that the legislature cannot be "usurped" according to the state constitution? Cox's view.
    Didn't the Lt. Gov say that they need have an official map in hand by January for candidates to come forward? So, while the repub legs will appeal it, time is running out. I don't see how this can be overturned at this point, but I'm new to all of this.

    Quartering SL County between four districts was pretty bush league.

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  • USUC
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    Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post

    There is no "Judge drawn map." There is a map submitted by the Plaintiffs and the maps submitted by the legislature. If the legislature hadn't overplayed its hand and ignored the law, they would have ended up with a compromise map. The legislature failed to submit anything that even came close to complying.
    Thank you for the clarification. So do you see this as an iron clad judgment that will be binding for the midterm elections? What so you think about the arguments that the legislature cannot be "usurped" according to the state constitution? Cox's view.

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  • MartyFunkhouser
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    Originally posted by USUC View Post
    The judge drawn map is as ridiculous as the GOP legislature created map. I can't imagine this map stands long.
    There is no "Judge drawn map." There is a map submitted by the Plaintiffs and the maps submitted by the legislature. If the legislature hadn't overplayed its hand and ignored the law, they would have ended up with a compromise map. The legislature failed to submit anything that even came close to complying.

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  • MartyFunkhouser
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    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

    The redistricting shit? That judge is probably going to set a torrent of threats angry letters/calls
    And the Utah legislature is egging it all on. I hope that no one knows where Judge Gibson lives.

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  • USUC
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    The judge drawn map is as ridiculous as the GOP legislature created map. I can't imagine this map stands long.

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  • frank ryan
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    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    Welp, all hell has broken loose.
    The redistricting shit? That judge is probably going to set a torrent of threats angry letters/calls

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