IF only we could get more Paul Ryans...

[Maximus]

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/04/0...over-10-years/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...172357504.html

[dabrockster]

For those of us who'd rather watch his argument via reading it..

[YOUTUBE]Xwv5EbxXSmE&feature[/YOUTUBE]

EDIT: I love that he has his sleeves rolled up like he is ready to get to work...

[Borderline Divine]

For those of us who'd rather watch his argument via reading it..

[YOUTUBE]Xwv5EbxXSmE&feature[/YOUTUBE]

EDIT: I love that he has his sleeves rolled up like he is ready to get to work...

Yeah it's a great physical prop, ain't it? Do ya suppose it means anything?

[Borderline Divine]

Another view

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/20...elfare-queens/

[RobinFinderson]

As one who feels well equipped to thrive in the coming apocalypse, I endorse Paul Ryan's budget proposal. There is a reason that Middle Eastern dictators throw cash at the huddled masses during these turbulent times -- it is a last-ditch effort to stave off revolution. US citizens may not have the stomach for revolution, but entitlement programs are a bulwark against all kinds of ugly, and all of that ugly is on its way.

[Jacob]

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Yeah it's a great physical prop, ain't it? Do ya suppose it means anything?

Yes.

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/20...elfare-queens/

But I couldn't find much meaning or reasoning in that little Yglesias piece of demagoguery. Perhaps he'll come up with a real argument once he figures out what Ryan is actually proposing.

[Borderline Divine]

Yes.



But I couldn't find much meaning or reasoning in that little Yglesias piece of demagoguery. Perhaps he'll come up with a real argument once he figures out what Ryan is actually proposing.

You didn't find the hotair piece just a tad "demagoguerish"? I guess the need to refer to the President as "The One" was just too much temptation to forego.

Adult discussion indeed. Sigh.

[Jacob]

You didn't find the hotair piece just a tad "demagoguerish"? I guess the need to refer to the President as "The One" was just too much temptation to forego.

Adult discussion indeed. Sigh.

I didn't read the HotAir piece you refer to.

[Borderline Divine]

I didn't read the HotAir piece you refer to.

It was the first link in the original post which started this thread. I assumed you read it as part of the thread. And we all know what happens...

[Jacob]

It was the first link in the original post which started this thread. I assumed you read it as part of the thread. And we all know what happens...

I don't read every link in a thread. I saw that it was HotAit and I pretty much knew what I was going to get. But this is beside the point. I only responded directly to your posts, which did not include any discussion of the Hot Air link. I'll take this avoidance effort on your part as an admission that the Yglesias piece was pretty worthless.

[Tim]

Sorry, I refuse to entertain any plan that doesn't address the two biggest problems in our country: NPR and school lunch programs. Start talking about the real problems or you're out, Mr. Ryan!

[Borderline Divine]

I don't read every link in a thread. I saw that it was HotAit and I pretty much knew what I was going to get. But this is beside the point. I only responded directly to your posts, which did not include any discussion of the Hot Air link. I'll take this avoidance effort on your part as an admission that the Yglesias piece was pretty worthless.

I'm not avoiding anything. Neither am I conceding anything. I thought the link I posted pointed out clearly that Medicaid pays out mostly to the elderly and the disabled. Do we have a disagreement on that core fact?

[woot]

While I enjoyed the video, it is obvious which party that guy belongs to. He managed to lay out how dire our situation is while directing all the attention to health and retirement benefits and not mentioning the 3 wars. Sigh. All of it needs to be cut, but I fear that because both parties are so entrenched there will be no compromise on "defense" spending or on entitlements.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

While I enjoyed the video, it is obvious which party that guy belongs to. He managed to lay out how dire our situation is while directing all the attention to health and retirement benefits and not mentioning the 3 wars. Sigh. All of it needs to be cut, but I fear that because both parties are so entrenched there will be no compromise on "defense" spending or on entitlements.

Mitch Daniels has mentioned that we look at cutting defense spending. He also suggested a truce within the GOP on dealing with social issues.

[I.J. Reilly]

I admit to only having watched the video, but I will go ahead and reject what I sense his assumptions to be.

"The numbers get so large it breaks the program." Really? I find that hard to believe.

My guess (since he never really states where his numbers are coming from) is that his projections are based upon two basic and faulty assumptions:
1. The Federal budget will continue to climb at recent rates
2. The economy will stagnate or grow at recent rates

His charts are all whacked out b/c he chooses to project out to 2070 while starting somewhere in the 70's. Of course his charts are going to look scary if he is going to populate it with a majority of "data" that he has made up.

It's this sort of politicking that upsets me. I have no clue what district the Congressman represents, but I would never vote for him. He traffics in fear-mongering and plays partisan ball to the detriment of the "Real Americans" that I'm sure he claims to support.

"Economists say" is a classic appeal to authority that he uses here to support an utter b.s. line that is easily refuted by looking at the data. "Economists say that when a nation's debt rises above 90% of its GDP things start to slow down and that's when things get really bad" or some such nonsense. If he would move his charts back a couple of decades he will note that American debt was well over 100% of the GDP coming out of WWII. I wonder how bad he thinks things must have been in the 50's. If I were to guess, my bet is that he would think of that time period as the zenith of American society. He's gotta be wrong somewhere.