Does One Word Change 'Huckleberry Finn'?

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  • tooblue
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 5108

    #1

    Does One Word Change 'Huckleberry Finn'?

    http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate...eberry-finn?hp

    “even at the level of college and graduate school, students are capable of resenting textual encounters with this racial appellative.”
  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #2
    Fundamentally wrong. You cannot change a text to suit current standards. This is absurd, but not unexpected.

    I'd rather it not be taught than to change it so that students don't get offended.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • Mrs. Funk
      Lawyer Wannabe
      • Nov 2008
      • 2690

      #3
      Are we now completely incapable of teaching literary context? Sheesh.
      "You know, I was looking at your shirt and your scarf and I was thinking that if you had leaned over, I could have seen everything." ~Trial Ad Judge

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      • Commando
        Explosivo
        • Feb 2009
        • 20748

        #4
        No, that's cool. I heard they were going to also incorporate some contemporary terms and expressions like "LOL" and stuff... you know-- just to unnecessarily take the reader out of the story and finish the job of pissing on the ashes of American Literature.


        * I just read that they'll also replace instances of "injun" with the more correct "Indian"

        YOU DUMB MOTHERF**KERS!! EAT SHIT AND DIE! ARRRGGHH!

        That upsets me.
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        • TripletDaddy
          sweet triple
          • Nov 2008
          • 58186

          #5
          This is the same population of students that listens to hip hop music?

          A little too Orwellian for my tastes.
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          • NorthwestUteFan
            אלוף
            • Oct 2010
            • 3384

            #6
            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
            Fundamentally wrong. You cannot change a text to suit current standards. This is absurd, but not unexpected.

            I'd rather it not be taught than to change it so that students don't get offended.
            I agree totally.

            However, (and a position on an issue like this is rarely without a conjunction) the book is already NOT being taught and is verboten in many places precisely because of the word which is being changed ('N'-word to 'slave').

            One of the lasting themes of the book is the juxtaposition of society's caste position for 'N-word Jim' against Huck's realization that Jim is not only his best friend, but also the most honest and 'human' person around him. The very way that Twain threw that dehumanizing word around in the book IMHO was meant to indicate this dichotomy.

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            • wuapinmon
              Soul Plumber
              • Dec 2008
              • 30711

              #7
              Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
              I agree totally.

              However, (and a position on an issue like this is rarely without a conjunction) the book is already NOT being taught and is verboten in many places precisely because of the word which is being changed ('N'-word to 'slave').

              One of the lasting themes of the book is the juxtaposition of society's caste position for 'N-word Jim' against Huck's realization that Jim is not only his best friend, but also the most honest and 'human' person around him. The very way that Twain threw that dehumanizing word around in the book IMHO was meant to indicate this dichotomy.
              Absolutely, the famous, "I can't pray a lie" line is evidence enough to me that the use was calculated, though I reject authorial intention.
              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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              • SoCalCoug
                Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
                • Nov 2008
                • 5214

                #8


                Do not change a single word of an author's work. Nobody has that right, once it's been published.
                If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

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                • TripletDaddy
                  sweet triple
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 58186

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post


                  Do not change a single word of an author's work. Nobody has that right, once it's been published.
                  Nobody?

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                  • creekster
                    It is NOT a monkey!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22661

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    you are confusaing author with translator?
                    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                    • NorthwestUteFan
                      אלוף
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3384

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post


                      Do not change a single word of an author's work. Nobody has that right, once it's been published.
                      It is now public domain, and the one company who is publishing it is not the ONLY company publishing it.

                      I assume the book will have an 'Edited by:' caveat somewhere.

                      (Great, now I am just inviting the poo-flingers to this thread...)

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                      • SoCalCoug
                        Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 5214

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
                        It is now public domain, and the one company who is publishing it is not the ONLY company publishing it.

                        I assume the book will have an 'Edited by:' caveat somewhere.

                        (Great, now I am just inviting the poo-flingers to this thread...)
                        It's still wrong, in my opinion.
                        If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

                        "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

                        "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30711

                          #13
                          Roger Ebert's taking some heat over this for tweeting that he'd rather be called "a nigger than a slave."

                          Not sure that white guys can make that claim.
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • creekster
                            It is NOT a monkey!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22661

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
                            It is now public domain, and the one company who is publishing it is not the ONLY company publishing it.

                            I assume the book will have an 'Edited by:' caveat somewhere.

                            (Great, now I am just inviting the poo-flingers to this thread...)
                            Hi! Did someone call?
                            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #15
                              Originally posted by creekster View Post
                              you are confusaing author with translator?
                              Didnt Joseph, the translator, change "white" to "pure?" Apparently, the original author used "white." Or, in the alternative, Joseph was wrong in his translation. I suppose either is possible
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