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  • SteelBlue
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 8188

    #91
    Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

    That is almost the exact opposite of what the Left is espousing on social media though (at least on the feeds that I am seeing). If someone doesn't agree with you, they are evil and shouldn't be in your circle. They are bad people.
    That's because you're in a Right echo chamber. This isn't a left/right thing it's a social media division pushing algorithm thing.

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    • frank ryan
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 12320

      #92
      Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post

      That's because you're in a Right echo chamber. This isn't a left/right thing it's a social media division pushing algorithm thing.
      Social media is the worst place to inform your political perspective.

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69621

        #93
        Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

        I said he is good person. Chillax. Someone can be a good person even if they have a different philosophical framework as you.

        What's your "team?"
        Populists who promote ideas that bad for our country and who prey on the fears and anxieties of gullible people are not on my team. Trump and Bernie, for example.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • frank ryan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 12320

          #94
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          Populists who promote ideas that bad for our country and who prey on the fears and anxieties of gullible people are not on my team. Trump and Bernie, for example.
          Disliking the philosophy makes sense. You're assuming I acknowledged Bernie's character because I agree with him.

          But I don't think Bernie a bad actor. I think you can be a good person regardless of political persuasion (with the accepting of fascists and communists). I think Mitt Romney is a good person. I always thought John McCain was one. Even though I've been somewhat disappointed Spencer Cox is a good human. I think George W would be a great neighbor and would be fun to hang out with.

          I think Bill Clinton was slimy and self-serving. Eric Adams is a corrupt grifter. I think Hasan Piker (who is leading the DSA movement) is a complete asshole and power hungry.

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          • SteelBlue
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 8188

            #95
            Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

            Social media is the worst place to inform your political perspective.
            I managed to leave Twitter for a good year or so when I realized what the constant anger it generated in me was doing to me. It was an immediate relief and improvement in my life. Also, it made me realize how not like real life those echo chambers are. Sadly, I eventually went back for “sports only”, out of weakness, but the algorithm never ceases trying to push anger and division no matter why you’re there.

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            • Pelado
              Bald not naked
              • Sep 2010
              • 21131

              #96
              Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post

              I managed to leave Twitter for a good year or so when I realized what the constant anger it generated in me was doing to me. It was an immediate relief and improvement in my life. Also, it made me realize how not like real life those echo chambers are. Sadly, I eventually went back for “sports only”, out of weakness, but the algorithm never ceases trying to push anger and division no matter why you’re there.
              Truth
              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
              - Goatnapper'96

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              • BigPiney
                Huge Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 12357

                #97
                Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post

                I managed to leave Twitter for a good year or so when I realized what the constant anger it generated in me was doing to me. It was an immediate relief and improvement in my life. Also, it made me realize how not like real life those echo chambers are. Sadly, I eventually went back for “sports only”, out of weakness, but the algorithm never ceases trying to push anger and division no matter why you’re there.
                That is like me on cougarboard.

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                • The_Tick
                  Made something of myself
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7281

                  #98
                  Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post

                  I managed to leave Twitter for a good year or so when I realized what the constant anger it generated in me was doing to me. It was an immediate relief and improvement in my life. Also, it made me realize how not like real life those echo chambers are. Sadly, I eventually went back for “sports only”, out of weakness, but the algorithm never ceases trying to push anger and division no matter why you’re there.
                  It really is great for sports.

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                  • frank ryan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 12320

                    #99
                    Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post

                    I managed to leave Twitter for a good year or so when I realized what the constant anger it generated in me was doing to me. It was an immediate relief and improvement in my life. Also, it made me realize how not like real life those echo chambers are. Sadly, I eventually went back for “sports only”, out of weakness, but the algorithm never ceases trying to push anger and division no matter why you’re there.
                    I've stayed of nuked almost all social media. I need to reactivate Facebook and download some pics and delete it altogether. Honestly the though going back on there and getting bombarded with rage bait causes me anxiety

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                    • BlueK
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 7180

                      #100
                      Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

                      That is almost the exact opposite of what the Left is espousing on social media though (at least on the feeds that I am seeing). If someone doesn't agree with you, they are evil and shouldn't be in your circle. They are bad people.
                      What is the context of those conversations. I don't think all liberals think any contrasting view is evil. But if you read a news article about say, immigration like the Haitian kid who just killed himself who was in the US under legal status when he came here that recently was yanked from him by the whim of the current administration, and read some of the comments, you'll see some maga folks basically cheering it on. It's hard for me as a moderate independent to not see the cheering on of suicide because of politics to not seem kind of evil. So it's not like there aren't some viewpoints out there that you would think most reasonable and good people would find pretty disturbing or even repugnant.

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12320

                        #101
                        So one of the big AI researchers thinks there is a better than 10 percent chance humanity going extinct because of AI.

                        We shouldn't invest trust in Musk and Peter Thiel.

                        He quit his job in protest:





                        Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives,” wrote Jacob Coxon.

                        “The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible – but I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger.”

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69621

                          #102
                          Meh. A disgruntled employee.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12320

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            Meh. A disgruntled employee.
                            He sounds disgruntled because of the lack of concern.

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                            • Moliere
                              One man.....one pie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 27850

                              #104
                              Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                              He sounds disgruntled because of the lack of concern.
                              Are you implying that Musk and Peter Thiel are trying to destroy humanity?
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • Green Monstah
                                Royal Rooter
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 13945

                                #105
                                My grand unifying theory: there's only one entity that wants (a) the US to lag in data centers and AI, (b) to blow up NATO, (c) to prop up Putin/Kim, etc., (d) for America to adopt an isolationist philosphy, (e) to increase the cost of trade with the US.

                                China baby. It's behind all of this. And all they had to do was convince a bunch of gullible Americans that electing a derelict was a good idea to do it (well, except for the data centers thing).
                                Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                                "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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