Data Centers - NIMBY or YIMBY?
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Now this is a "use case" for the AI buildout I can get on board with. It will still be trillions of dollars of wasted money in the end when it comes to AI itself. But employing private credit and big tech cash to buy out water rights instead of using eminent domain and public dollars when the water crisis reaches critical mass? Yes please! And the water savings will be even greater when the full fantasy data center buildout doesn't happen. Let's get this going!Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
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I’m not sure I’d call KSA our adversary, but the point is a good one. We’re draining a desert’s water resources so Saudi’s have their preferred cheeses.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostJesus wants me for a sunbeam.
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Same. I don't like AI for other reasons but gatekeeping it , for me is less about using resources and more about ethical use of it.Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
Now this is a "use case" for the AI buildout I can get on board with. It will still be trillions of dollars of wasted money in the end when it comes to AI itself. But employing private credit and big tech cash to buy out water rights instead of using eminent domain and public dollars when the water crisis reaches critical mass? Yes please! And the water savings will be even greater when the full fantasy data center buildout doesn't happen. Let's get this going!
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I don't mind exporting alfalfa. It is an industry. But data centers are a better, more strategic industry (don't listen to Omaha). And people throwing hysterics about converting ag water to data center water seem incredibly naive.Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
I’m not sure I’d call KSA our adversary, but the point is a good one. We’re draining a desert’s water resources so Saudi’s have their preferred cheeses."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
I don't mind exporting alfalfa. It is an industry. But data centers are a better, more strategic industry (don't listen to Omaha). And people throwing hysterics about converting ag water to data center water seem incredibly naive.
I am agreeing with you! Data center dreams are better than alfalfa in the desert!
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"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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That's funny.
PA gov Shapiro banned data centers and announced a website for comments. It was then community-noted that the comment site was hosted at a data center.
Fools"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Or is X making up a story about fake Chinese AI outrage to sway public opinion towards data centers, hmmm?!?Originally posted by USUC View Post"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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Remember when everyone went after that Utah data center promoter for claiming China was doing anti-data center psy-ops? Good times.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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The "X Safety Team". I don't think I have ever had more confidence in a group or organization.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostRemember when everyone went after that Utah data center promoter for claiming China was doing anti-data center psy-ops? Good times.
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This was inevitable and I think the unions have a good argument here. I’m still holding to my theory that AI has a loose parallel to the machine automation of the last half century. One replaced blue collar jobs and the other is replacing white collar jobs. The white collar workers are just now finding out what it’s like to have a superior non human worker take over their livelihood…which is really what’s driving the anti-AI data center push. The anti data center protests are as dumb as the unions that protest automating things like factories or ports."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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