Official 2026 Midterm Election Thread (If Trump lets us have one! TIC!)

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  • dabrockster
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10942

    #226
    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

    Let me offer some advice. Your expectation seems to be that before we level any criticism against Trump/whatever, in order to pass your hypocrisy meter we must have given that same criticism to the other side previously. And if we haven't done that sufficiently in your eyes, that's your proof of our hypocrisy.

    That's not how any of this works, for a couple of reasons. First, your whataboutism is entirely subjective. You are the judge of our 'hypocrisy', and if we haven't met your level of sufficient 'the other side does the same', you pull the hypocrisy trigger. Since you haven't proven to any of us that your own political philosophy is any more free of 'hypocrisy' than ours, why should we trust your judgement?

    Second, there has been no other US president like Trump. He is in a class by himself, so any attempt to gauge his awfulness to another leader fails because there is no comparison (I threw this in just to check if your hypocrisy meter is still working!)
    The same could be said about your subjective use of whataboutism everyone time I call out the hypocrisy.. The fact is the same. You have your opinion and I have mine. I find it hypocritical as the same BS political things being done by the other side is now Sergio when the Dems were doing the exact same thing.

    I think I have made my opinions known enough on areas I distaste and hate about Trump. Have posted as such, but.. Every time I call out the hypocrisy, the same old bullshit comes out of being a Trumper or “WhoeverTDS” is thrown about. Trump is in his own league for sure. But to think Biden and his corrupt family and his admin were not be benefiting and hiding his incompetency from that walking geriatric fool is a bit disingenuous.

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    • chrisrenrut
      Strikes and Gutters
      • Jul 2009
      • 2289

      #227
      Any I being hypocritical in some way for saying it is completely f’d up? How can any conservative/republican/MAGA defend this, or even condemn this?

      Trump asks convention crowd to pledge to him they will vote, ‘cheat like hell’

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      • frank ryan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 12343

        #228
        Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
        Any I being hypocritical in some way for saying it is completely f’d up? How can any conservative/republican/MAGA defend this, or even condemn this?

        Trump asks convention crowd to pledge to him they will vote, ‘cheat like hell’
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ll-vote-cheat/
        Thanks to our amazing SCOTUS, Trump can do whatever he wants without fear of getting in trouble.

        Why wouldn't he cheat?

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        • Jeff Lebowski
          Corporate lackey for Jesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 69669

          #229
          Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

          Thanks to our amazing SCOTUS, Trump can do whatever he wants without fear of getting in trouble.

          Why wouldn't he cheat?
          Yeah, that's not true.

          Plenty of truly horrible things to note about the Trump administration. No need to make stuff up.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Northwestcoug
            Cocked and Loaded
            • May 2011
            • 18002

            #230
            Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
            Any I being hypocritical in some way for saying it is completely f’d up? How can any conservative/republican/MAGA defend this, or even condemn this?

            Trump asks convention crowd to pledge to him they will vote, ‘cheat like hell’
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ll-vote-cheat/
            Depends. Have you sufficiently posted about how corrupt Biden and his family was?
            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
            - SeattleUte

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12343

              #231
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

              Yeah, that's not true.

              Plenty of truly horrible things to note about the Trump administration. No need to make stuff up.

              Let's not accuse me of making things up.

              The guy tried to overthrow our election with mob violence and got away with it.

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              • BlueK
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 7189

                #232
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                Yeah, that's not true.

                Plenty of truly horrible things to note about the Trump administration. No need to make stuff up.
                I'm missing something. What isn't true or what did he make up?

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                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27869

                  #233
                  Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                  I'm missing something. What isn't true or what did he make up?
                  He made up that Trump can do whatever he wants thanks to SCOTUS. They’ve ruled many times against him, even ruling against him twice last week. They are not a rubber stamp for the president
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • frank ryan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 12343

                    #234
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                    He made up that Trump can do whatever he wants thanks to SCOTUS. They’ve ruled many times against him, even ruling against him twice last week. They are not a rubber stamp for the president
                    What has he gotten himself in trouble for? He can't be held criminally liable for crimes while in office. Am I wrong on that? That's because of a scotus decision. If I'm wrong point out where I'm wrong, don't accuse me of lying.

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69669

                      #235
                      Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                      He made up that Trump can do whatever he wants thanks to SCOTUS. They’ve ruled many times against him, even ruling against him twice last week. They are not a rubber stamp for the president
                      Yes.

                      Nor did they give him unlimited immunity.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • PaloAltoCougar
                        Semper infra dignitatem
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 16934

                        #236
                        Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                        What has he gotten himself in trouble for? He can't be held criminally liable for crimes while in office. Am I wrong on that? That's because of a scotus decision. If I'm wrong point out where I'm wrong, don't accuse me of lying.
                        I think the decision you're referring to has been misinterpreted by many observers. Trump, like any other president, can be held liable for crimes arising from unofficial or private actions (although prosecution would have to wait until leaving office). He can't be held liable for acting within his specific constitutional powers (and I think it's a good thing presidents can't), and there's a rebuttable presumption of immunity for other official acts. Trump doesn't have blanket immunity.

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                        • frank ryan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12343

                          #237
                          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

                          I think the decision you're referring to has been misinterpreted by many observers. Trump, like any other president, can be held liable for crimes arising from unofficial or private actions (although prosecution would have to wait until leaving office). He can't be held liable for acting within his specific constitutional powers (and I think it's a good thing presidents can't), and there's a rebuttable presumption of immunity for other official acts. Trump doesn't have blanket immunity.
                          Thank you for that explanation. That's definitely not the impression I had. But I wasn't making shit up.


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                          • BlueK
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 7189

                            #238
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                            He made up that Trump can do whatever he wants thanks to SCOTUS. They’ve ruled many times against him, even ruling against him twice last week. They are not a rubber stamp for the president
                            Thank goodness they rejected Trump on the post office deciding who can have a mail in ballot. 7-2 with Alito and Thomas proudly standing as complete Constitution ignoring clowns again.

                            The decision means a Postal Service measure that could lead to ballots not being sent to voters won’t be in effect for November’s midterm elections.


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                            • Moliere
                              One man.....one pie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 27869

                              #239
                              Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                              Thank goodness they rejected Trump on the post office deciding who can have a mail in ballot. 7-2 with Alito and Thomas proudly standing as complete Constitution ignoring clowns again.

                              The decision means a Postal Service measure that could lead to ballots not being sent to voters won’t be in effect for November’s midterm elections.

                              Thanks for proving my point
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • BlueK
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 7189

                                #240
                                Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                                Thanks for proving my point
                                Yeah, I never said they don't ever get it right. With Trump's increasing craziness and authoritarian power grabs it's getting scarier however. But Alito and Thomas are proving almost every time now that they are fake originalists, textualists, or whatever else they've claimed in the past to be. If they did actually rule per the Constitution I would respect that even if their personal interpretation of some specific point differed from mine. That's what I would say about Gorsuch, for example. But those two just blatantly ignore it more and more often to give Trump or also likely their oligarch friends what they want.


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