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Dunno. But my comment isn't based on not accepting help. And I didn't like Bush as president, so I'm not sure why you brought that up."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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And instead of white sand there would be black beaches just like in Hawaii. It's a sad day when my family decides to make a day trip to Galveston as opposed to going to Pensacola, especially when that decision is based on the cleanliness of hte beaches and water.Originally posted by nikuman View PostI might go - imagine the discounts we could get!
YOu are absolutely right he would have been blasted for taking aid and for doing too much. The GOP will spin anything he does in a negative light.Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSomething tells me if Obama accepted the aid people would find fault with it. Bush turned down aid post Katrina. Turned down cash from other countries.
I think it is a no-brainer the aid should have accepted from the Dutch. But drudge would have torched him for being weak had he done that.
However I still think that accepting aid and doing it timely is more important that playing a game of politics. Obama should choose to keep the beaches and water clean over choosing to make a political point."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I think this is off base. Bush was anxious to shake the "go it alone" image and would have jumped at the chance to appear to be cooperating with allies, particularly when it would not cost him politically what it would have cost Obama.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostYOu are absolutely right he would have been blasted for taking aid and for doing too much. The GOP will spin anything he does in a negative light.
However I still think that accepting aid and doing it timely is more important that playing a game of politics. Obama should choose to keep the beaches and water clean over choosing to make a political point.
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My bad I assumed you did. I don't think you'd levy the same criticism at someone else who you liked more. That was my pointOriginally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostDunno. But my comment isn't based on not accepting help. And I didn't like Bush as president, so I'm not sure why you brought that up.
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I don't disagreeOriginally posted by Eddie Jones View PostAnd instead of white sand there would be black beaches just like in Hawaii. It's a sad day when my family decides to make a day trip to Galveston as opposed to going to Pensacola, especially when that decision is based on the cleanliness of hte beaches and water.
YOu are absolutely right he would have been blasted for taking aid and for doing too much. The GOP will spin anything he does in a negative light.
However I still think that accepting aid and doing it timely is more important that playing a game of politics. Obama should choose to keep the beaches and water clean over choosing to make a political point.
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You're right that I wouldn't level the same criticism at another. But that's what's great about this country. I can say what I want about Obama with no fear. Not yet anyway.Originally posted by frank ryan View PostMy bad I assumed you did. I don't think you'd levy the same criticism at someone else who you liked more. That was my point"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Hmm... Just in time for hurricane season. Maybe there is some logic to this.Originally posted by dabrockster View PostIt's about Mother F*$%ing Time... Ugh.. 70 days later. That is just inexcusable..
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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[YOUTUBE]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gmWWePoYHYk&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gmWWePoYHYk&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/YOUTUBE]Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostYou're right that I wouldn't level the same criticism at another. But that's what's great about this country. I can say what I want about Obama with no fear. Not yet anyway."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I just posted this on UD's fb wall, but I figured I would share my thoughts here.
Honestly, I am greatly disappointed in the time we took to accept help. The regulation was no hurdle, b/c as I understand it it was an EPA regulation that would require no action from Congress or any other great bureaucratic movement, just the say-so of the president and it's done. I'm sure if the Pres. had made the case to the American public and said, "look, we're going to loosen this requirement for a bit in order to prevent a much greater disaster," the American people would have been about 99.9985% on board with the plan.
The labor union stuff just makes me sick. It's the worst manifestation of special interests trumping good policy. I don't see why we couldn't have brought the Dutch in first and let them provide training and do the control until the American workers were ready and then ease out the Dutch. Maybe our experience in Iraq has taught us that the transition stuff doesn't really work, so why even bother here.
This, imo, is a failure placed squarely on the shoulders of the executive.
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post[YOUTUBE]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gmWWePoYHYk&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gmWWePoYHYk&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/YOUTUBE]
That's awesome. The Onion rocks."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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You are spot on. I'm just curious as to what level of incompetence Obama will rise. For the country's sake, I hope he's at the pinnacle, but I'm afraid he still has a long way to go.Originally posted by mUUser View PostFor the past two years, I feel like I've been watching the Peter Principle slowly unfold before my eyes."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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There comes a time when a President should become a leader and not look at ways this will impact his politics or approval rating. In this case I would of applauded his acceptance of help and I think the majority of the country would of agreed (Even if Drudge and the GOP would of tried to make him look weak).. He may have taken the heat in the beginning but would of came out look much better overall.Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSomething tells me if Obama accepted the aid people would find fault with it. Bush turned down aid post Katrina. Turned down cash from other countries.
I think it is a no-brainer the aid should have accepted from the Dutch. But drudge would have torched him for being weak had he done that.
But the posturing of unions jobs etc to do the work has everything to do with politics and people are disgusted with the oil spill being used as a "payback" to unions..
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Yeah, he could at least point out to some real results, rather than being a foot-dragging imbecile who only realized now there was something effective that could've been done 2 months ago.Originally posted by dabrockster View PostThere comes a time when a President should become a leader and not look at ways this will impact his politics or approval rating. In this case I would of applauded his acceptance of help and I think the majority of the country would of agreed (Even if Drudge and the GOP would of tried to make him look weak).. He may have taken the heat in the beginning but would of came out look much better overall.
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Scathing article on Obama and the oil spill..
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ctions_opinion
For the life of me I cannot see why Obama and his Admin have chosen to go at a snail's pace on this.. It is sad that politics seems to be the only conclusion that many can direct this Obama Blunder on...
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