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  • U.S. FINALLY accepts help on Oil Spill

    It's about Mother F*$%ing Time... Ugh.. 70 days later. That is just inexcusable..


    Link:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-acc....html?x=0&.v=2


    I wonder if the Dutch were one of the 12 countries..

    http://www.financialpost.com/Avertib...808/story.html

  • #2
    Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
    It's about Mother F*$%ing Time... Ugh.. 70 days later. That is just inexcusable..


    Link:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-acc....html?x=0&.v=2


    I wonder if the Dutch were one of the 12 countries..

    http://www.financialpost.com/Avertib...808/story.html

    Great election year fodder.

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    • #3
      Acting unilaterally. ✔
      Going it alone. ✔
      Motivated by special interests. ✔
      Cowboy mentality. ✔

      Republicans need to jump all over this.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
        Acting unilaterally. ✔
        Going it alone. ✔
        Motivated by special interests. ✔
        Cowboy mentality. ✔

        Republicans need to jump all over this.
        And just what the hell is wrong with a cowboy mentality?

        Seriously though, there has to be a back story to this. Even I don't have enough conspiracy theory in me to believe Obama would intentionally let the spill grow so that he could make BP and big oil look bad, or to help create jobs. I wonder if there were strings attached to the offers we received.
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        October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
        Grantland Rice, 1924

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cowboy View Post
          And just what the hell is wrong with a cowboy mentality?

          Seriously though, there has to be a back story to this. Even I don't have enough conspiracy theory in me to believe Obama would intentionally let the spill grow so that he could make BP and big oil look bad, or to help create jobs. I wonder if there were strings attached to the offers we received.
          The article linked in the other thread indicated that it was because the Dutch technology cleans the water and returns it to the Gulf mostly clean but our environmental standards require that it be 99.9985% clean before it be put back. Apparently what we are doing now is scooping the water up, taking it to shore and offloading it a facility, then coming back to get more.

          The other issue is that the unions want their guys doing the work so rather than just let the Dutch come in and start working, we have allowed them to send us their equipment, which we are retrofitting ships with, and holding off until American workers can be trained. IOW, the reasons are political.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
            IOW, the reasons are political.
            I read the article, but I'm trying to give the administration the benefit of the doubt by thinking there has to be more to it. I can't believe they'd be that stupid.
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            "Outlined against a blue, gray
            October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
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            • #7
              Originally posted by cowboy View Post
              I read the article, but I'm trying to give the administration the benefit of the doubt by thinking there has to be more to it. I can't believe they'd be that stupid.
              Didn't mean to insult your intelligence. Maybe there is something more to it, but I think the perception is not going to be good. They are definitely going to need to tell us why they accepted on day 70 rather than day 1 or some other day in between.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                Didn't mean to insult your intelligence. Maybe there is something more to it, but I think the perception is not going to be good. They are definitely going to need to tell us why they accepted on day 70 rather than day 1 or some other day in between.
                The perception is never good when it's based on people jumping to conclusions and then treating them like fact.
                Visca Catalunya Lliure

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tim View Post
                  The perception is never good when it's based on people jumping to conclusions and then treating them like fact.
                  Perception is reality in politics and you are right that it is often not completely based in reality. Okay. The perception is still going to be harmful unless he explains it. Do you know why we waited? There may be a perfectly sound explanation.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tim View Post
                    The perception is never good when it's based on people jumping to conclusions and then treating them like fact.
                    The fact is that Obama waited 70 days to accept foreign aid, when that aid was offered sometime during the first week of the spill. The perception is that Obama waited too long to accept the aid. I think the facts and perception on this are tied together.

                    Maybe there were other factors that went into the delay in accepting aid, but those factors had better be pretty darn good factors or he's (or his party) going to get lambasted in November.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                      And just what the hell is wrong with a cowboy mentality?

                      Seriously though, there has to be a back story to this. Even I don't have enough conspiracy theory in me to believe Obama would intentionally let the spill grow so that he could make BP and big oil look bad, or to help create jobs. I wonder if there were strings attached to the offers we received.
                      The whole "create jobs" mentality is so politically driven that it's corrupted our government so as to make it almost inept at these things. Sure it would be great to have Americans working the equipment, but at some point a crisis is a crisis. By letting the spill pollute as much as it has, they have destroyed jobs and property values. My family for instance is not even thinking about visiting Pensacola or Destin this year, which is something we do every other year (and this is the year we would go). We are going to stay home over the labor day weekend. Will we go next year? Possibly, but only as long as the beaches are cleaned up.
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                        The whole "create jobs" mentality is so politically driven that it's corrupted our government so as to make it almost inept at these things. Sure it would be great to have Americans working the equipment, but at some point a crisis is a crisis. By letting the spill pollute as much as it has, they have destroyed jobs and property values. My family for instance is not even thinking about visiting Pensacola or Destin this year, which is something we do every other year (and this is the year we would go). We are going to stay home over the labor day weekend. Will we go next year? Possibly, but only as long as the beaches are cleaned up.
                        I might go - imagine the discounts we could get!
                        Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                        • #13
                          Something tells me if Obama accepted the aid people would find fault with it. Bush turned down aid post Katrina. Turned down cash from other countries.
                          I think it is a no-brainer the aid should have accepted from the Dutch. But drudge would have torched him for being weak had he done that.

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                          • #14
                            Bottom line is that Obama is incompetent.
                            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                              Bottom line is that Obama is incompetent.
                              You think bush would've accepted the dutch offer?

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