Tea Party Observations

[dabrockster]

I seem to remember a lot of people being upset about excessive spending during the previous administration. But I will now entertain arguments to the effect that the increase in outrage over the deficit has not been proportional to the increase in the deficit itself.

I agree with this. There were some of us who were vocal and did not like it at all. But groups had not yet come together. Since then more bailouts, and massive spending has taken place so it has gotten more attention and people are seeing it now...

[kccougar]

71,


3) I guess I wish that there was a wing of the GOP that said, "we don't like
everything Obama (Democrats) do. We will respectfully not support the
President when he pushes these things. But we will also actively seek
opportunities to compromise."

Because the current administration has shown they are so willing to accomodate.

[dabrockster]

I totally agree with you. I'd like to completely eliminate automatic withholding.

[byu71]

This is an admittedly loaded question, but where was this Tea Party outrage during the previous administration?

Because we were having a party. Hell, everyone could buy a house with nothing down and pay later. We all had jobs. Our main concern was not to let the terrorists ruin the party.

We got a rude awakening. There can be a price to pay from run away debt.

We laud the Clinton speculative years because the bubble that collapsed didn't point to maybe an all out depression. This time we had the crap scared out of us.

[BoylenOver]

Because we were having a party. Hell, everyone could buy a house with nothing down and pay later. We all had jobs. Our main concern was not to let the terrorists ruin the party.

We got a rude awakening. There can be a price to pay from run away debt.

We laud the Clinton speculative years because the bubble that collapsed didn't point to maybe an all out depression. This time we had the crap scared out of us.

Fair post. Thanks for the response. You too, napper (and anyone else I have forgotten).

[All-American]

Fair post. Thanks for the response. You too, napper (and anyone else I have forgotten).

There's exactly one person you have "forgotten."

Why the hate, BO? Why?

[BoylenOver]

There's exactly one person you have "forgotten."

Why the hate, BO? Why?

I have an inherent distrust in All-Americans. Also, all Americans.

I blame my parents.

[dabrockster]

There's exactly one person you have "forgotten."

Why the hate, BO? Why?

BO: Damned if you do. damned if you don't..

[All-American]

I have an inherent distrust in All-Americans. Also, all Americans.

I blame my parents.

You've cut me deep, my friend. Forgiveness shan't come easily.

[byu71]

3) I guess I wish that there was a wing of the GOP that said, "we don't like
everything Obama (Democrats) do. We will respectfully not support the
President when he pushes these things. But we will also actively seek
opportunities to compromise."

I actually believe this would serve the GOP well in the long run.

The GOP has lost many of its moderate members over the last few years, that
just may come back to haunt us.

I am with you there. I have been howling for a long time that the social conservatives have been taking over and wrecking the republican party. That is how we ended up with republicans not worrying about fiscal things, they focused on the social issues way too much.

On the other hand, dealing with Obama, I will leave that up to my good buddy PAC. I think he still has faith in him and I will rely on his faith.

In my own view Obama is a charletin. A very, very likeable one, but one just the same. I would be afraid to deal with him unless I was a very liberal thinker.

[il Padrino Ute]

Further, President Obama has never kept it a secret of his intentions to redistribute wealth and his signature domestic accomplishment is another entitlement designed just for that purpose.

While he was campaigning for the office of POTUS, he did keep it a secret, but those of us that are able to detect bullshit knew what his intentions were.

[byu71]

Further, President Obama has never kept it a secret of his intentions to redistribute wealth and his signature domestic accomplishment is another entitlement designed just for that purpose.

and yet he bristles when anyone calls him a "socialist" and mocks those that say he is moving us to a "european style" economy. This is why I don't trust the guy. He speaketh with smooth forked tongue. All politicians do, but he does it very well and has the backing of the media.

Let's have the debate. Do we want to move to a more European/Canadian version of government and economy. I am sure some on here can make valid arguments for doing so.

[il Padrino Ute]

3) I guess I wish that there was a wing of the GOP that said, "we don't like everything Obama (Democrats) do. We will respectfully not support the President when he pushes these things. But we will also actively seek opportunities to compromise."

What has Obama done thus far to give the GOP a chance to compromise? The fake little "health care summit" that took place before the vote was nothing more than Obama gathering the politicians together to tell them that they will do what he tells them to do.

It's tough to compromise when the other side shuts you out of everything.

[All-American]

While he was campaigning for the office of POTUS, he did keep it a secret, but those of us that are able to detect bullshit knew what his intentions were.

Also, those who heard him say it. So he didn't really keep it a secret.

[il Padrino Ute]

Also, those who heard him say it. So he didn't really keep it a secret.

If you're talking about his redistribution of wealth comment to Joe the plumber, then you are correct. That slipped my mind. If it was about health care, I'll concede that he always talked about it, but he never announced how costly it was really going to be.