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  • dabrockster
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10905

    #1

    State of the Union

    What were your thoughts?

    Mine:
    In my opinion his speech was self promoting and at times defiant to what I think the American people want. The "Blame Bush" game has worn out, and taking this stance only hurts him and the Democrats. The people would embrace him if he had owned and took the blame. Even if he truly was not to blame. Humility goes a long way, and he did not shown any. I think this only emboldens those against him and possibly loses more support

    His speech on creating jobs did not really bring me any hope but was more of a way to try and appease those who are against his social agenda. At this point, this was the only good thing I saw. But, I won't hold my breath for it to actually happen..

    Sadly, and true to form, he shows little if any respect to the armed forces and those sacrificing their lives for freedom. No heart felt appreciate for them or the work being done. Only the exit strategy to garner appease to his left of center supporters that he angered when he choose to send more troop. Do I think it should of been the main topic of the State of Union? No, but it deserved more then a brief sentence that he gave. He missed an open opportunity to speak about our troops and thank them..

    Lastly, his open attack on the SCOTUS was a below the belt jab that once again shows his arrogance. To actually, publicly criticize the SCOTUS and use a "Bully Pulpit" style shows his arrogance and out of touch with the American people.


    He gets a C- from me...
  • Tim
    Not Banned
    • Nov 2008
    • 4390

    #2
    LOL!
    Visca Catalunya Lliure

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    • byu71
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 22070

      #3
      He gives a good political speech. It especially impresses me how he calls for bi-partisanship out of one side of his mouth while being wildly partisan out the other side. So much so he calls out the Supreme Court in a State of the Union speech. Then his minions pout because one of the Justices has the audacity to disagree with him right there while he is giving the speech.

      I really want to not only like this President, as with all Presidents, but it is also in my best interest to see him succeed. I never thought I would say this about a President, but I wish he would be more political like say Bill Clinton or Mitt Romney. Move the direction the Country wants to go and not where your personal vision of where we should go.

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      • PaloAltoCougar
        Semper infra dignitatem
        • Nov 2008
        • 16921

        #4
        Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
        ...
        Sadly, and true to form, he shows little if any respect to the armed forces and those sacrificing their lives for freedom. No heart felt appreciate for them or the work being done.
        Tonight, all of our men and women in uniform — in Iraq, Afghanistan, and around the world – must know that they have our respect, our gratitude, and our full support. And just as they must have the resources they need in war, we all have a responsibility to support them when they come home. That is why we made the largest increase in investments for veterans in decades. That is why we are building a 21st century VA. And that is why Michelle has joined with Jill Biden to forge a national commitment to support military families.

        It's a shame Obama was so vague one couldn't pick up on the subtle hints of respect, gratitude and full support.

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        • landpoke
          Never once baby snatched
          • Nov 2008
          • 4183

          #5
          I heard that if you take the first letter of the first word of every sentence in his speech it spells out Praise be to Allah and Death to the Great Satan over and over again.
          There's no such thing as luck, only drunken invincibility. Make it happen.

          Tila Tequila and Juggalos, America’s saddest punchline since the South.

          Yesterday was Thursday, Thursday
          Today is Friday, Friday (Partyin’)
          …
          Tomorrow is Saturday
          And Sunday comes afterwards

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          • Goatnapper'96
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10920

            #6
            Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
            What were your thoughts?

            Mine:
            In my opinion his speech was self promoting and at times defiant to what I think the American people want. The "Blame Bush" game has worn out, and taking this stance only hurts him and the Democrats. The people would embrace him if he had owned and took the blame. Even if he truly was not to blame. Humility goes a long way, and he did not shown any. I think this only emboldens those against him and possibly loses more support

            His speech on creating jobs did not really bring me any hope but was more of a way to try and appease those who are against his social agenda. At this point, this was the only good thing I saw. But, I won't hold my breath for it to actually happen..

            Sadly, and true to form, he shows little if any respect to the armed forces and those sacrificing their lives for freedom. No heart felt appreciate for them or the work being done. Only the exit strategy to garner appease to his left of center supporters that he angered when he choose to send more troop. Do I think it should of been the main topic of the State of Union? No, but it deserved more then a brief sentence that he gave. He missed an open opportunity to speak about our troops and thank them..

            Lastly, his open attack on the SCOTUS was a below the belt jab that once again shows his arrogance. To actually, publicly criticize the SCOTUS and use a "Bully Pulpit" style shows his arrogance and out of touch with the American people.


            He gets a C- from me...
            The honest truth is I lost interest. My guess is that will be the trend for him. Other than his oratorial ability, there isn't widespread appeal in what he says. Unless you are part of his core the same stuff gets old and boring. I did chuckle at the line to Republicans about not clapping for tax cuts. However, once he began to blame Bush, which he is probably justified in doing, I got bored and tuned it out.

            I give it a solid B+, but like most of my college professors who did not read my scholarly works, I ignored most of what he said!
            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
            -General George S. Patton

            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
            -DOCTOR Wuap

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            • mUUser
              Giggity
              • Jul 2009
              • 1142

              #7
              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
              I give it a solid B+
              Dang! Easy grader.

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              • Goatnapper'96
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10920

                #8
                Originally posted by mUUser View Post
                Dang! Easy grader.
                Presentation is so important and in the immortal words of the BulletBoys: "smooth up in ya!"
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • Hallelujah
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2741

                  #9
                  Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                  He gives a good political speech. It especially impresses me how he calls for bi-partisanship out of one side of his mouth while being wildly partisan out the other side. So much so he calls out the Supreme Court in a State of the Union speech. Then his minions pout because one of the Justices has the audacity to disagree with him right there while he is giving the speech.

                  I really want to not only like this President, as with all Presidents, but it is also in my best interest to see him succeed. I never thought I would say this about a President, but I wish he would be more political like say Bill Clinton or Mitt Romney. Move the direction the Country wants to go and not where your personal vision of where we should go.
                  Was his Supreme Court slam on the same level (etiquette wise) as to him being called out as a 'liar' by a congressman?

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                  • byu71
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22070

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hallelujah View Post
                    Was his Supreme Court slam on the same level (etiquette wise) as to him being called out as a 'liar' by a congressman?
                    NO !!

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                    • il Padrino Ute
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19161

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tim View Post
                      LOL!
                      I agree with you about the laugh, Tim. A C- is incredibly generous. He gets an F-- from me.
                      "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                      "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                      • wuapinmon
                        Soul Plumber
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 30711

                        #12
                        Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                        I agree with you about the laugh, Tim. A C- is incredibly generous. He gets an F-- from me.
                        Why not just an F--- ---?
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • Goatnapper'96
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10920

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                          Why not just an F--- ---?
                          I like yours better. With respect to negatives Jaime Escalante taught me to always go with odd numbers!

                          IPU unwittingly, which we all know is a characteristic trait for Republican shills (if the people could just see the miracle of Obama extending health care to many AND saving money there would be no opposition), gave President Obama an F+. I know IPU enough to know that is not the grade he would give our dear inspirer of hope and change!
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

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                          • il Padrino Ute
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19161

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            Why not just an F--- ---?
                            I added an extra - for every 10 minutes after one hour.
                            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                            • dabrockster
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10905

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tim View Post
                              LOL!
                              Hey Tim.. Why don't you back up your own posts and give me a good opinion of the speech rather than your "LOL"..

                              For someone who try's to calls me out for not giving any input you sure are a hypocrite..

                              Examples of Tim's great words of wisdom when starting his own threads..

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