Utah Man dies in cave upside down.. (St. George Area)

[dabrockster]

How sad. He feel 700 feet but survived and got stuck again in cave..

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...s_of_life.html


I never knew a person could die from being upside down, but I think the fall probably played a role in his death..


I hope his family is comforted during this difficult time...

[Indy Coug]

I just don't understand the allure of recreational activities that have relatively high mortality risks (spelunking, parachuting, bungee jumping, etc.)

What a horrible and needless tragedy. I feel for his poor wife, child and unborn child.

[Fiyero]

I just don't understand the allure of recreational activities that have relatively high mortality risks (spelunking, parachuting, bungee jumping, etc.)

What a horrible and needless tragedy. I feel for his poor wife, child and unborn child.

From an article in today's Trib:

"We'll never fully understand how or why it was John's time to leave us," Hunter said. "But we find comfort in knowing that he fulfilled his purpose here on Earth, and that we will be reunited with him again."

Are you kidding me? On his own accord he stupidly crawls into a tiny crevice, gets stuck and suffocates, and therefore "it was his time?" His wife is two months pregnant, and "he fulfulled his purpose?"

[YOhio]

That's sad. As scouts we went to Nutty Putty cave once. We had to crawl through puddles of freezing cold water. It was miserable.

[Surfah]

From an article in today's Trib:

Are you kidding me? On his own accord he stupidly crawls into a tiny crevice, gets stuck and suffocates, and therefore "it was his time?" His wife is two months pregnant, and "he fulfulled his purpose?"

I am with you. I guess those are the things you say to yourself though when you don't want to be bitter.

[dabrockster]

I don't understand the critisim in this.

Why must some take away their solace and comfort in knowing there is life beyond this world and that even though he left a hole and a broken family. It is not bound on earth only. His family is eternal...

[Coach McGuirk]

How sad. He feel 700 feet but survived and got stuck again in cave..

Link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...s_of_life.html


I never knew a person could die from being upside down, but I think the fall probably played a role in his death..


I hope his family is comforted during this difficult time...

He didn't fall 700 feet and it wasn't in St. George. He crawled in a very tight space, and he did so head first. I am very interested to see exactly where this happened. They are saying The Birth Canal, but from the descriptions I am hearing, I think he was deeper, like head first into scout eater. I can even imagine what prompted him to fit in there, head first, when it doesn't go anywhere.

[Moliere]

I've been in that cave before. It's not that dangerous, especially for someone who has done caving. BYU students used to go in there all the time when it was open to the public.

I never went in the birth canal though. The thought of crawling that far without the ability to turn around just got the best of my senses and kept me out of it.

Sad story though and probably will be a tough holidays for the family.

[dabrockster]

He didn't fall 700 feet and it wasn't in St. George. He crawled in a very tight space, and he did so head first. I am very interested to see exactly where this happened. They are saying The Birth Canal, but from the descriptions I am hearing, I think he was deeper, like head first into scout eater. I can even imagine what prompted him to fit in there, head first, when it doesn't go anywhere.

Quote from Article:

Six feet tall and 190 pounds, Jones fell 700 feet and got trapped in the 18-inch wide crevice. Though workers freed him briefly, he soon became stuck again and after 28 hours of struggling was pronounced dead. His is the first known fatality at the cave, according to the Utah County sheriff's office, though two people were rescued from the same spot in 2004.




I don't know the cave or the area so I have no idea if he fell or if slipped etc..

[Coach McGuirk]

Quote from Article:

Six feet tall and 190 pounds, Jones fell 700 feet and got trapped in the 18-inch wide crevice. Though workers freed him briefly, he soon became stuck again and after 28 hours of struggling was pronounced dead. His is the first known fatality at the cave, according to the Utah County sheriff's office, though two people were rescued from the same spot in 2004.




I don't know the cave or the area so I have no idea if he fell or if slipped etc..

Yeah, I know what the article said. It's wrong.


you can't fall 700 feet in Nutty Putty. He was 145 feet below ground 700 feet from the entrance of the cave. He didn't fall, he didn't slip. He wiggled himself into a spot he couldn't wiggle out of.

From the descriptions, I think he headed into the Scout Eater tube, head first. It is a dead end.

here is a map of the cave,

http://www.climb-utah.com/WM/Maps/NuttyPuttyCaveMap.pdf

and here is a picture of the entrance of The Birth Canal. He was another 150-175 feet beyond that, in a smaller tube. how do you fall into that?

[dabrockster]

Yeah, I know what the article said. It's wrong.


you can't fall 700 feet in Nutty Putty. He was 145 feet below ground 700 feet from the entrance of the cave. He didn't fall, he didn't slip. He wiggled himself into a spot he couldn't wiggle out of.

From the descriptions, I think he headed into the Scout Eater tube, head first. It is a dead end.

here is a map of the cave,

http://www.climb-utah.com/WM/Maps/NuttyPuttyCaveMap.pdf

and here is a picture of the entrance of The Birth Canal. He was another 150-175 feet beyond that, in a smaller tube. how do you fall into that?

Thanks for the info.. I think that is a pretty big mistake for a writer to make. Since many like me who are not familiar with it will think the same thing...

[wuapinmon]

Yeah, I know what the article said. It's wrong.


you can't fall 700 feet in Nutty Putty. He was 145 feet below ground 700 feet from the entrance of the cave. He didn't fall, he didn't slip. He wiggled himself into a spot he couldn't wiggle out of.

From the descriptions, I think he headed into the Scout Eater tube, head first. It is a dead end.

here is a map of the cave,

http://www.climb-utah.com/WM/Maps/NuttyPuttyCaveMap.pdf

and here is a picture of the entrance of The Birth Canal. He was another 150-175 feet beyond that, in a smaller tube. how do you fall into that?

That photograph and the name of the place reminds me of that scene in Almodóvar's Talk to Her.

[I.J. Reilly]

That photograph and the name of the place reminds me of that scene in Almodóvar's Talk to Her.

Pedro is one messed up mind.

[Clark Addison]

For someone like me, who has a bit of claustrophobia, that seems like pure hell. I went on a Scout trip a few years ago where we went through some caves (with a guide) that required some squirming and crawling in a few places. It was not my favorite scout trip.

It's a terrible thing for the family.

[SteelBlue]

Yeah, I know what the article said. It's wrong.


you can't fall 700 feet in Nutty Putty.

I would submit that you can't fall 700 feet, land on a rock surface and survive ever. That's a pretty glaring error for a writer to make.