32% increase at California campuses

[Mormon Red Death]

FixUC proposal

Basically All students would pay 5% of their income after graduation (some reductions for working in California and being a government worker) to the UC system. No more student loans, also from what I gather no more scholarships.

[All-American]

Looks like its time for California to get out of the college racket and stop sending so many people to college.

What's the deal with all the unaccredited Law schools out there? Are they state schools or private? When their bar passage rate is below 50% its pretty clear that they need to cut enrollment by about 50%. Stop subsidizing is a good start.

I understand that California allows you to take the bar without graduating from law school. In that case, the school isn't the problem.

[Mormon Red Death]

What's that, about 2X the U for instate tuition/fees?

We're gonna end up paying around $25k for our daughter's first year at Utah, plus room and board. Fortunately, it's not too difficult to gain state residency after one year, after which the costs plummet.

I wish Utah had a Legacy program like USU and every(?) other state university in Utah.

They do

[Mormon Red Death]

FixUC proposal

Basically All students would pay 5% of their income after graduation (some reductions for working in California and being a government worker) to the UC system. No more student loans, also from what I gather no more scholarships.

More on FixUC

Because the FixUC calls for a 5% yearly contribution from graduates, it effectively establishes a wide-ranging tuition. One version of the plan establishes a base income of $30,000 -- graduates who make less than that amount would be exempt from making their 5% payments. On the upper end, graduates who make more than $200,000 per year would have their yearly contributions capped at $10,000. In other words, the yearly post-graduate tuition payment would range from $1,501 to $10,000.

[Tim]

FixUC proposal

Basically All students would pay 5% of their income after graduation (some reductions for working in California and being a government worker) to the UC system. No more student loans, also from what I gather no more scholarships.

I just read the proposal and I really like it. Education is one of the best investments a society can make, and I like the idea of people being able to pay for the next generation's education with a portion of the money they've made as a result of their own education. Having a predictable amount of operational budget should help university administrators with resource and growth planning much more easily, and it removes financial barriers from the admittance of low-income students who otherwise would've qualified.

[Katy Lied]

Why the lower repayment for government workers? Government workers are the last people who should get a tuition break. They still have fully funded pensions, and exhorbitant benefits, and many more holidays and comp time equivalents, and they make equivalent if not more than the average private sector job.

[CardiacCoug]

Blame the "War on Drugs."

http://www.fareedzakaria.com/home/Ar...on_Nation.html

In 2011, California spent $9.6 billion on prisons vs. $5.7 billion on the UC system and state colleges. Since 1980, California has built one college campus and 21 prisons. A college student costs the state $8,667 per year; a prisoner costs it $45,006 a year.

[Mormon Red Death]

Why the lower repayment for government workers? Government workers are the last people who should get a tuition break. They still have fully funded pensions, and exhorbitant benefits, and many more holidays and comp time equivalents, and they make equivalent if not more than the average private sector job.

probably to incentivize people to be teachers.

[byu71]

In China can everyone go to college who wants to, or is it like it used to be, only those selected by the State can go?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Blame the "War on Drugs."

http://www.fareedzakaria.com/home/Ar...on_Nation.html

I am a Zakaria fan, but that it is a terribly misleading statistic, especially when used out of context. I am sure the powers that be don't sit around wondering "Gee, should we build another prison or another college campus?".

[byu71]

I am a Zakaria fan, but that it is a terribly misleading statistic, especially when used out of context. I am sure the powers that be don't sit around wondering "Gee, should we build another prison or another college campus?".

I used to be. In my view he has gone the way of Cris Mathews, Mika Brzinski, Hannity and Limbaugh. They have all gone so partisan they aren't really worth listening to if you are truly trying to learn something.

[Uncle Ted]

In China can everyone go to college who wants to, or is it like it used to be, only those selected by the State can go?

Chinese students take a test that is like the American SAT/ACT except it is nine hours long and is only given once a year. If they are tardy even a few minutes to the test they get turned away. Something over half the students make the cut and get to go to college. The rest get to go work at the Apple iDevice factory.

[byu71]

Chinese students take a test that is like the American SAT/ACT except it is nine hours long and is only given once a year. If they are tardy even a few minutes to the test they get turned away. Something over half the students make the cut and get to go to college. The rest get to go work at the Apple iDevice factory.

If we keep electing democrats to office, that is how it will be here too. Of course there will be exceptions for kids of party officials, just like I suspect there is in China.

The entitlement costs will become so great that there will have to be a system for rationing who gets to go. They could use BYU as a model on how to do it.

[Uncle Ted]

Blame the "War on Drugs."

http://www.fareedzakaria.com/home/Ar...on_Nation.html

Maybe criminals should be sentenced to college rather than prison. It would be less expensive for the state.

[Solon]

Maybe criminals should be sentenced to college rather than prison. It would be less expensive for the state.

Maybe it would work - CA prisons are very crowded.

From what I understand, the massive prison population is one of the results of "three strikes and you're out" legislation that was pushed heavily in the 90s (supported by, surprise, the prison-guards union), as well as various prisoners-rights challenges to living conditions (health-care, dental care, occupational & physical therapy, etc.). Plus, guards are well compensated.