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  • ERCougar
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10978

    #31
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Why is that? Use your sick physics skillz to break this down for the rest of us.
    Something about wind resistance, extra effort to move your body forward, etc.

    Really, my specialty is projectile motion.
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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69603

      #32
      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
      Really, my specialty is projectile motion.
      Mine is harmonic motion.
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      • Sea Chicken
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 304

        #33
        Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
        I could've sworn you were a sub 7 pace kind of guy (from something you posted somewhere). To me, that's wicked fast.
        I can hit 7 in a 5k on a good day. I just race against myself. There are too many people out there who are younger, thiner and faster.

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        • Eddie
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 8098

          #34
          Originally posted by Sea Chicken View Post
          I can hit 7 in a 5k on a good day. I just race against myself. There are too many people out there who are younger, thiner and faster.
          I would take 7 on a 5K - and would LOVE to get to sub-7. Got a ways to go to get even there; closer to 8.

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          • Pheidippides
            Liberal Feminazi
            • Nov 2008
            • 14759

            #35
            Originally posted by Eddie View Post
            I would take 7 on a 5K - and would LOVE to get to sub-7. Got a ways to go to get even there; closer to 8.
            When I was a long distance track guy in HS, I ran a 5 flat. It was the proudest day of my running life.

            I can't do sub 8 now, and I won't even try.
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            • Eddie
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 8098

              #36
              Originally posted by nikuman View Post
              When I was a long distance track guy in HS, I ran a 5 flat. It was the proudest day of my running life.

              I can't do sub 8 now, and I won't even try.
              Running track in H.S. I think my fastest time in the mile was 5:12. I used to hit around 12:30-12:45 in the 2 mile.

              I've kind of set a goal to run a 5K in 20 minutes - just so that I have something to work towards. Right now (on a treadmill, mind you) I can finish 5K in about 24 minutes. That includes my warm-up, so I think I could drop another minute without a lot of work - but I'm sure those other three minutes will cost me some time on the track.

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              • LA Ute
                Receiver of Memory
                • Nov 2008
                • 19512

                #37
                I like treadmills and use them whenever I am in a hotel. (How can you beat getting a good cardio workout while watching "Law and Order?") I always have a higher heartrate at the end of a treadmill workout, for some reason. I don't think I could do it every day - I like being outside too much, and we do have awfully good weather here . . . .

                Ellipticals are even better for a non-impact workout but when I use one more than occasionally I get patellar tendinitis. Exercise machines can be funny that way.
                Last edited by LA Ute; 05-11-2009, 03:29 PM.
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                • Sea Chicken
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 304

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                  Running track in H.S. I think my fastest time in the mile was 5:12. I used to hit around 12:30-12:45 in the 2 mile.

                  I've kind of set a goal to run a 5K in 20 minutes - just so that I have something to work towards. Right now (on a treadmill, mind you) I can finish 5K in about 24 minutes. That includes my warm-up, so I think I could drop another minute without a lot of work - but I'm sure those other three minutes will cost me some time on the track.
                  I didn't run track in High School (third-string running back here). I did a mile road race last summer in 6:05:84. I ran in the geezer race. Funny thing is that I would have placed better in the open. Too many midlife crises out there in my age group.

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                  • Eddie
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 8098

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sea Chicken View Post
                    I didn't run track in High School (third-string running back here). I did a mile road race last summer in 6:05:84. I ran in the geezer race. Funny thing is that I would have placed better in the open. Too many midlife crises out there in my age group.
                    That's a great time!

                    In the sprint tri I'm doing I have the choice of competing in my age group or in the "clydsdale" group for anyone over 200. I figure I'll run into what you're describing in my age group, and I'll run into some 6'5" 201 lb. young athlete in the weight group. Either way, I'm just hoping to finish.

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                    • cowboy
                      Homer Weems
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 5740

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                      Thanks for the tip. Even more than before I'm thinking I need to start with just taking one of my short runs each week on the road and then move up from there.
                      As another point of reference, my BIL trained fro the SLC marathon entirely on the treadmill. He trained to run a 9:00 pace, and ended up running a 9:46. He was doing well until about 20, then lost his stamina. Afterwards, though, he said his legs weren't hurting any worse than any other marathons.
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                      • scottie
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 5247

                        #41
                        Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                        When I was a long distance track guy in HS, I ran a 5 flat. It was the proudest day of my running life.

                        I can't do sub 8 now, and I won't even try.
                        4:31 was my personal best in high school, run at the state meet my senior year. That was for 1600 meters though, a true mile is actually 1609.3 meters.

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                        • Teenage Dirtbag
                          Since 1971
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1096

                          #42
                          Hal Hidgon posted this as his "Tip of the Day" on Facebook today:

                          "Tip of the Day: Running indoors on a treadmill certainly is acceptable behavior if the weather is rotten or if you don't want to run in the dark. But there never will come a time when race directors place treadmills by the starting lines of 5-K races and marathons and offer people a chance to run their race on a moving belt. Get outside as much as you can."

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                          • marsupial
                            Mississippi Queen
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 3678

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Teenage Dirtbag View Post
                            Hal Hidgon posted this as his "Tip of the Day" on Facebook today:

                            "Tip of the Day: Running indoors on a treadmill certainly is acceptable behavior if the weather is rotten or if you don't want to run in the dark. But there never will come a time when race directors place treadmills by the starting lines of 5-K races and marathons and offer people a chance to run their race on a moving belt. Get outside as much as you can."
                            Ugh. I have gotten really bad about running outside. I ran 13.1 today on the treadmill in preparation for a half I have in a month. The problem right now for me is 1) I started at 5 a.m. and I don't like running in the dark. 2) I'm breastfeeding and require an obscene amount of water to stay hydrated (I drank about 120 oz during my run--try and carry that in a camelback.)

                            I ran a 5k earlier this year and I didn't notice a difference in my pace from treadmill to road, but I imagine that I won't be able to keep up my treadmill pace for a half.
                            What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
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                            • Teenage Dirtbag
                              Since 1971
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1096

                              #44
                              Originally posted by marsupial View Post
                              Ugh. I have gotten really bad about running outside. I ran 13.1 today on the treadmill in preparation for a half I have in a month. The problem right now for me is 1) I started at 5 a.m. and I don't like running in the dark. 2) I'm breastfeeding and require an obscene amount of water to stay hydrated (I drank about 120 oz during my run--try and carry that in a camelback.)

                              I ran a 5k earlier this year and I didn't notice a difference in my pace from treadmill to road, but I imagine that I won't be able to keep up my treadmill pace for a half.
                              I wouldn't stress about it too much, you can only do what you can do. There's no way I'd be cool with my wife running outside at 5.

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                              • BigPiney
                                Huge Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12354

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Teenage Dirtbag View Post
                                I wouldn't stress about it too much, you can only do what you can do. There's no way I'd be cool with my wife running outside at 5.
                                I sent my wife out at 6:00 this morning. The worst that can happen around here is a cow attack or maybe the coyote that hangs about.

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