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Cougar Club donation in lieu of tithing
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I'm not worried because I'm convinced that God is also a member of the Cougar Club.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
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Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostI'm not worried because I'm convinced that God is also a member of the Cougar Club.
There's going to be some major rejoicing on Saturday then!Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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Do it.Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostSo I'm contemplating donating more to the Cougar Club and paying less tithing. I'm not sure if there is anything wrong with this, since the Cougar Club is a direct extension of the LDS Church. It would be my way of making sure my money is going to a worthy cause instead of paying for an excessively fancy chandelier for a temple. Anyone have thoughts about this alternative approach to tithing?
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Forget the Cougar Club. They don't need your money. Give it to a poor kid who can't afford to go to school, not to some organization that'll use it to pamper (semi-)talented athletes who've never had to work hard at anything in their lives except avoid honor-code indiscretions.
Seriously, though, I wish I could pay all of my tithing as fast offerings. My stake community needs the money desperately, and I'm reluctant to support some of the stuff that the COB decides to spend money on."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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I try very hard not to think about where tithing money goes. When I do I dismiss the thought rapidly.
For me the decision is do I pay or don't I. Once I decide, IMHO, it isn't for me to think about if it is spent properly. I have done my part and am not reponsible for how it is spent.
I came to this conclusion once when I donated a penny stock to the church. It had gone from .10 to .30 in about 1 month. About a week after it went back down to .10. I was feeling a bit guilty so I called up those that handle donations and asked if they sold my stock, I didn't want to take credit for inflated tithing. They told me, I needed to decide whether I had given full value or not. I explained that was what I was trying to do and needed to know if they sold it. The guy kept putting me off. Finally he said, it is none of your business whether we sold it or not.
That is when I decided, with tithing, "out of sight out of mind", it isn't my deal anymore.
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This is sound. I am going to stop fasting on fast Sunday and instead fast every day between the hours of 10:30 pm and 5:30 am, which actually adds up to much more fasting that two meals once a month!Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostRight, that's all I'm saying. I guess in theory I could just not pay tithing, but I think that might make God upset. So I figure I'll pay it, but just allocate it as I see fit.Last edited by UtahDan; 09-18-2009, 08:06 AM.
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But then you would miss your shake for breakfast and lunch. You can't just get by on just a sensible dinners.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostThis is sound. I am going to stop fasting on fast Sunday and instead fast every day between the hours of 10:30 pm and 5:30 pm, which actually adds up to much more fasting that two meals once a month!
Or did you mean 5:30am?
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Wasn't that an old General Conference talk? Some guy told one of the GA's that instead of paying tithing or fast offerings he would take the money he would've paid and put it into an account. When he saw someone in need he would give it to them. Purchasing food for a out of work family, shoes or a coat for a kid who didn't have one, etc.Originally posted by All-American View PostIf I thought you weren't trolling, I'd say you were being awfully generous with somebody else's money.
He asked the GA what the GA thought of his plan. The GA's response was that he thought he was being awfully generous with someone else's money.
I concur with your thoughts that this is a troll. That aside, I know how I would feel if rather than giving me my check on payday my employer sent me a list of the items he had purchased for me with the money.
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I think the argument that it's someone else's money only applies if one believes in an ex nihilo creation. Mormons do not believe in an ex nihilo creation. http://en.fairmormon.org/Creatio_ex_nihiloOriginally posted by Eddie View PostHe asked the GA what the GA thought of his plan. The GA's response was that he thought he was being awfully generous with someone else's money.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
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Does this mean I don't own my house because I didn't make it appear out of nothing?Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostI think the argument that it's someone else's money only applies if one believes in an ex nihilo creation. Mormons do not believe in an ex nihilo creation. http://en.fairmormon.org/Creatio_ex_nihilo
I'm sure God has ownership of the Universe fair and square.
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You sound like an apostate. Since when does the Mormon God own the Universe? I think the doctrine is that he owns a couple of solar systems or something.Originally posted by beefytee View PostI'm sure God has ownership of the Universe fair and square.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
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You'll have to explain that to me.Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostI think the argument that it's someone else's money only applies if one believes in an ex nihilo creation. Mormons do not believe in an ex nihilo creation. http://en.fairmormon.org/Creatio_ex_nihiloτὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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I decided to start donating heavily to the missionary fund. If the missionaries are successful and baptize a lot people, then it wouldn't stand that BYU would have a much larger recruiting pool? Now I just need to figure out how to make sure those funds go directly to the missions in Florida, Texas and Southern California."To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
—Abraham Maslow
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