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  • What's the difference between wine and prozac?

    Drinking a glass of "spirits" in the evening, (or a beer during the game), or popping the pill?

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Fiyero View Post
    Drinking a glass of "spirits" in the evening, (or a beer during the game), or popping the pill?

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    One is regulated by a doctor and/or pharmacist, and the other usually isn't?

    How bad are hangovers for prozac?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by beefytee View Post
      One is regulated by a doctor and/or pharmacist, and the other usually isn't?

      How bad are hangovers for prozac?
      This.

      Fiyero is cleverly trying to make a point about Mormon culture that has been made about 3 million times.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Fiyero View Post
        Drinking a glass of "spirits" in the evening, (or a beer during the game), or popping the pill?

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        To my knowledge Eli Lilly never got any of the girls in my HS pregnant. Bartles and Jaymes on the other hand should be the middle name of many a 20-something bastard.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by beefytee View Post
          One is regulated by a doctor and/or pharmacist, and the other usually isn't?

          How bad are hangovers for prozac?
          I wonder if this is another symptom of Mormons' deference to authority. Should a doctor always be trusted more than oneself when it comes to your health and well-being?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Fiyero View Post
            Drinking a glass of "spirits" in the evening, (or a beer during the game), or popping the pill?

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            The chemistry of the two substances aside, Mormons promised God that they would not partake of one, and made no such promise about the other. That's pretty much it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by cowboy View Post
              The chemistry of the two substances aside, Mormons promised God that they would not partake of one, and made no such promise about the other. That's pretty much it.
              So, no medications in liquid form because that would breaking the WoW due to alcohol as an ingredient?

              Sorry for being a wisecrack. I agree with you. People take things to extremes.
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              • #8
                Alcohol affects dopamine, Prozac affects serotonin. Substances/behaviors that affect dopamine bring the brain's endogenous reward system into play and are more likely to be addictive. Not that this has much to do with Mormons or Fiyero's motivation for asking the question. Oh well...

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                • #9
                  I'm not talking about getting smashed out of your mind on alcohol. Likewise I'm not talking about taking five prozacs with two spoons of heroin either. Many people have a single glass of wine with dinner, or a beer or two at the game, and that alone alters your mind a bit with a calming sensation, to wash away the day's problems and relax and enjoy yourself. Isn't that the point of prozac as well, to screw with a person's mind like a chemical upper?

                  P.S. People, stop playing God and presuming that you have the ability to read my mind and know what my motivation is for asking this question. It's just a question.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fiyero View Post
                    I'm not talking about getting smashed out of your mind on alcohol. Likewise I'm not talking about taking five prozacs with two spoons of heroin either. Many people have a single glass of wine with dinner, or a beer or two at the game, and that alone alters your mind a bit with a calming sensation, to wash away the day's problems and relax and enjoy yourself. Isn't that the point of prozac as well, to screw with a person's mind like a chemical upper?

                    P.S. People, stop playing God and presuming that you have the ability to read my mind and know what my motivation is for asking this question. It's just a question.
                    I don't have any problems with moderate drinking, but alcohol, actually, is a chemical depressant.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fiyero View Post
                      I'm not talking about getting smashed out of your mind on alcohol. Likewise I'm not talking about taking five prozacs with two spoons of heroin either. Many people have a single glass of wine with dinner, or a beer or two at the game, and that alone alters your mind a bit with a calming sensation, to wash away the day's problems and relax and enjoy yourself. Isn't that the point of prozac as well, to screw with a person's mind like a chemical upper?

                      P.S. People, stop playing God and presuming that you have the ability to read my mind and know what my motivation is for asking this question. It's just a question.
                      My apologies Fiyero. And while I pretty much agree with you, I intend to keep my distance from alcohol... and not just because of the WoW. That's just me, though.

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                      • #12
                        Are there other religions that forbid the drinking of alcohol. My guess is if they do they are very fundamentalist in nature.

                        Also I know of people who refuse to have alcohol and it isn't for religious reasons. They for the most part though don't view those who drink as evil.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                          They for the most part though don't view those who drink as evil.
                          Do you think Mormons do?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Danimal View Post
                            I don't have any problems with moderate drinking, but alcohol, actually, is a chemical depressant.
                            Explain your understanding of a "depressant."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                              Explain your understanding of a "depressant."
                              This:

                              Your Brain - Alcohol is a depressant that slows brain activity down. While one or two drinks makes most people feel relaxed, more alcohol may cause feelings of anxiety, depression, and often aggression. Alcohol’s first effect as it reaches the outer brain is to distort your judgement and lower you inhibition, while producing euphoria (a sense of pleasure). As you consume more alcohol, and it reaches the cerebellum, your coordination and perception are affected, and you can have memory blackouts. As the alcohol reaches your mid-brain, reflexes diminish, you experience confusion, stupor, and may lapse into a coma. Once the alcohol finally reaches the medulla, or inner core of the brain, your heart rate drops and breathing ceases, resulting in death. Research suggests that continued alcohol use can cause depression. Alcohol robs brain cells of water and glucose, the brain’s food, contributing to a hangover the next day.
                              from here:

                              http://www.radford.edu/~kcastleb/affect.html
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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