October 2019 General Conference

[Jeff Lebowski]

What about my LDS friends that donated to the Beto campaign? Does the bishop need to take away their TRs?

If one can vote for Trump and keep a TR, there should be not problem with Beto.

[Uncle Ted]

If one can vote for Trump and keep a TR, there should be not problem with Beto.

So my employer will match like 3-to-1 my donations to a lot of different LGBTQ organizations. So maybe I should find one that is pushing for dropping the tax-exempt status of non-profits that are against same-sex marriage... this should help get BYU into a P5 sooner rather than later.

[Moliere]

that's a good question, but based on the D. Todd quotes lebowski posted, you're still golden.

now, the question is, is every SP or Bishop out there on the same page - are they aware or do they remember he said that? would you have to pull that quote out of your back pocket if you "fail" the interview? "but, president, DTC said this..."

Yep, the ambiguity in the question and the fact that few leaders know about the quote bring us back to leadership roulette. However, I’d never answer “yes” to that question so I won’t have an issue but I can see others having an issue. Why make the TR process harder than it needs to be.

[Green Monstah]

The church is against trans people having rights? That's new to me.

Fair. If I go online and support trans rights in the church (i.e priesthood and temple blessings).

[Jeff Lebowski]

Fair. If I go online and support trans rights in the church (i.e priesthood and temple blessings).

I think that would depend on your tone and methods.

[CardiacCoug]

Guys, Elder Christofferson addressed this issue directly back in 2015:

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.p...74&itype=CMSID

Nice for the Church to make sure that important doctrinal clarification is right there on archive.sltrib.com for anybody to read and reference if they need help understanding the new TR questions.

[Uncle Ted]

Nice for the Church to make sure that important doctrinal clarification is right there on archive.sltrib.com for anybody to read and reference if they need help understanding the new TR questions.

LOL.

[smokymountainrain]

Nice for the Church to make sure that important doctrinal clarification is right there on archive.sltrib.com for anybody to read and reference if they need help understanding the new TR questions.

[Katy Lied]

When not even a stake president knows what the current ruling is, how can a lay person know what the church's stance is on a social issue so he can align with it? I think it will more and more come to- believe what you want just don't actively tear the church down, and don't actively try to dissuade someone from leaving.

[Donuthole]

When not even a stake president knows what the current ruling is, how can a lay person know what the church's stance is on a social issue so he can align with it? I think it will more and more come to- believe what you want just don't actively tear the church down, and don't actively try to dissuade someone from leaving.

Huh?

[creekster]

When not even a stake president knows what the current ruling is, how can a lay person know what the church's stance is on a social issue so he can align with it? I think it will more and more come to- believe what you want just don't actively tear the church down, and don't actively try to dissuade someone from leaving.

If you are sitting around waiting for someone in SLC to tell you what to think, you're doing it wrong. You're responsible for your own salvation, so seek it out.

[Green Monstah]

If you are sitting around waiting for someone in SLC to tell you what to think, you're doing it wrong. You're responsible for your own salvation, so seek it out.

Work out your salvation and use your own wits to interpret our rules, unless we interpret them for you. Then, you must follow our interpretation.

Or you can do what I do, just tell them the answer they want to hear.

[creekster]

Work out your salvation and use your own wits to interpret our rules, unless we interpret them for you. Then, you must follow our interpretation.

Or you can do what I do, just tell them the answer they want to hear.

Right. The only alternative. And I suppose you, of all people, sit around and wait for SLC to tell you what to think?

We all have to decide what we think and believe. God gave us brains that think and reason.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Work out your salvation and use your own wits to interpret our rules, unless we interpret them for you. Then, you must follow our interpretation.

Or you can do what I do, just tell them the answer they want to hear.

That’s a very cynical take.

[All-American]

That’s a very cynical take.

Yeah, GM. Be mindful of where you are. This is not the right place for cynicism.