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  • Katy Lied
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 9435
    #136
    Nope, I gotta stand behind my post. Some sisters live on Facebook. If they dont write about it on FB, it didn't happen. If I follow their posts and their kids posts, I know more about what is happening in their lives (both good and bad) than if I visit once a month.

    Actually, I'm not sure what the purpose of VT is. If it is to support and encourage some sister, FB does it. If it is to spy on their homes to make sure their front parlor is tidy, then a physical visit is the better option.

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      • falafel
        loves to talk on things
        • Mar 2009
        • 38034
        #137
        Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
        Nope, I gotta stand behind my post. Some sisters live on Facebook. If they dont write about it on FB, it didn't happen. If I follow their posts and their kids posts, I know more about what is happening in their lives (both good and bad) than if I visit once a month.

        Actually, I'm not sure what the purpose of VT is. If it is to support and encourage some sister, FB does it. If it is to spy on their homes to make sure their front parlor is tidy, then a physical visit is the better option.
        What would you do for sisters that don't facebook much? And therefore would not see your weekly encouragement? My wife, for example.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69831
            #138
            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            KL has to be mocking wap.
            Apparently not.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27927
                #139
                From what I can tell, the main purpose of visiting teaching is to spread gossip.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Donuthole
                    Official Outgayer
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 25304
                    #140
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                    From what I can tell, the main purpose of visiting teaching is to spread gossip.
                    I thought was the purpose of book group and bunco.
                    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                      • Katy Lied
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 9435
                        #141
                        Its not that I am proposing FB replace visits, it's just that no one will even consider alternative methods, such as FB or other social interaction.

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                          • Bo Diddley
                            Senior
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 18857
                            #142
                            Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                            Its not that I am proposing FB replace visits, it's just that no one will even consider alternative methods, such as FB or other social interaction.
                            Don't you self report? I've never been in a ward that has defined what constitutes a visit for home teaching. I think it varies in each case.

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                              • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                                Time to camp
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26082
                                #143
                                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                                What would you do for sisters that don't facebook much? And therefore would not see your weekly encouragement? My wife, for example.
                                old_g, falafel, moli. I like learning that there are still guys out there that keep their women in check!
                                Get confident, stupid
                                -landpoke

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                                  • chrisrenrut
                                    Strikes and Gutters
                                    • Jul 2009
                                    • 2319
                                    #144
                                    Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                                    Don't you self report? I've never been in a ward that has defined what constitutes a visit for home teaching. I think it varies in each case.
                                    Our HP group leader defines Home Teaching as an in-home visit. But we do self report, so if I don't agree with that definition I can report whatever I want. I have reported in the past that I had a telephone conversation with a family and weren't able to find a time to visit, but they were doing great, and they would not count it as a visit for that month. When I was EQP, I woudl have counted it.

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                                      • falafel
                                        loves to talk on things
                                        • Mar 2009
                                        • 38034
                                        #145
                                        Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                                        old_g, falafel, moli. I like learning that there are still guys out there that keep their women in check!
                                        She wouldn't appreciate that comment, but thankfully she's not allowed to read this board.
                                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                        Dig your own grave, and save!

                                        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                                          • Bo Diddley
                                            Senior
                                            • Jul 2012
                                            • 18857
                                            #146
                                            Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
                                            Our HP group leader defines Home Teaching as an in-home visit. But we do self report, so if I don't agree with that definition I can report whatever I want. I have reported in the past that I had a telephone conversation with a family and weren't able to find a time to visit, but they were doing great, and they would not count it as a visit for that month. When I was EQP, I woudl have counted it.
                                            It's just a metric, so I suppose it depends on what the leaders want to measure. It's much more than visiting in the home once a month.

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                                              • Dwight Schr-ute
                                                Members Only
                                                • May 2011
                                                • 4917
                                                #147
                                                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                                                What would you do for sisters that don't facebook much? And therefore would not see your weekly encouragement? My wife, for example.
                                                You better get started on that front parlor.
                                                I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                                                  • Jeff Lebowski
                                                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                                    • Nov 2008
                                                    • 69831
                                                    #148
                                                    Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
                                                    Our HP group leader defines Home Teaching as an in-home visit. But we do self report, so if I don't agree with that definition I can report whatever I want. I have reported in the past that I had a telephone conversation with a family and weren't able to find a time to visit, but they were doing great, and they would not count it as a visit for that month. When I was EQP, I woudl have counted it.
                                                    I got into a scrape with my HP group leadership 3-4 years ago. I mentioned that I liked to do a variety of things with my families, including inviting the families over for BBQ or ice cream, dinner in the park up the canyon, cookie decorating with the kids, etc. They (one in particular) told me that I could go on doing that, but unless I reported an in-home visit with a lesson and a prayer, they weren't going to count it as home teaching. I laughed and told him I couldn't care less whether or not he "counted" my home teaching. He reported me to the bishop and the bishop told him to knock it off.
                                                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                                                      • Bo Diddley
                                                        Senior
                                                        • Jul 2012
                                                        • 18857
                                                        #149
                                                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                                        I got into a scrape with my HP group leadership 3-4 years ago. I mentioned that I liked to do a variety of things with my families, including inviting the families over for BBQ or ice cream, dinner in the park up the canyon, cookie decorating with the kids, etc. They (one in particular) told me that I could go on doing that, but unless I reported an in-home visit with a lesson and a prayer, they weren't going to count it as home teaching. I laughed and told him I couldn't care less whether or not he "counted" my home teaching. He reported me to the bishop and the bishop told him to knock it off.
                                                        There's certainly a place for in home visits with a lesson and a prayer, but if that's all you care about happening, you have a very narrow view of what home teaching can accomplish.

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                                                          • Moliere
                                                            One man.....one pie
                                                            • Oct 2009
                                                            • 27927
                                                            #150
                                                            Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
                                                            Our HP group leader defines Home Teaching as an in-home visit. But we do self report, so if I don't agree with that definition I can report whatever I want. I have reported in the past that I had a telephone conversation with a family and weren't able to find a time to visit, but they were doing great, and they would not count it as a visit for that month. When I was EQP, I woudl have counted it.
                                                            My home teachers haven't been inside of my house in 2.5 years and yet they report themselves as 50% home teachers

                                                            In all honesty, this seems to be the best solution. Don't visit and count it. Win/win
                                                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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