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  • BYU just released the report from their sexual assault advisory committee. I like the recommendations, all of which President Worthen has said they are ready to adopt.


    Dear Students, Staff and Faculty,

    Today we are announcing that the Advisory Council on Campus Response to Sexual Assault has completed its study and that the President’s Council has agreed with all the recommendations in the Advisory Council’s report. We are releasing that report today, and I wanted you to be the first to have access to it. I encourage you to read the Advisory Council’s full report, as well as its recommendations.
    As the Advisory Council notes, sexual assault is an abhorrent offense that violates sacred doctrines – such as moral agency, the sanctity of the body and the sacred nature of marriage and sexual intimacy – that are central to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Sexual assault cannot and will not be tolerated at BYU.

    Our top priority is the safety and well-being of our students. This is particularly true for those who have been the victims of sexual assault. They have been through a devastating experience, and they are looking for our help and support. We have an obligation not only to provide that support, both emotional and spiritual, but also to create an environment where sexual assault is eliminated.

    The Advisory Council, led by Vice President Janet S. Scharman, shares that commitment. Its report represents hundreds upon hundreds of hours of work since the council was formed in mid-May. It is thoughtful, thorough, candid and extremely helpful. I am deeply grateful to Vice President Scharman, Vice President Sandra Rogers, Dean Ben Ogles and Dr. Julie Valentine for their commitment to helping us find solutions to this complex and challenging issue.

    After reviewing the report and recommendations, the President’s Council has determined to accept all of the 23 recommendations. There are several that we will begin to implement immediately, including the following:
    1.Create a new, full-time Title IX coordinator position to replace the existing part-time Title IX coordinator position.
    2.Create a victim advocate / confidential advisor position.
    3.Create a new, physical space to house the Title IX Office in a location separate from the Honor Code Office.
    4.Ensure that, unless the health or safety of others is at risk, the Title IX Office does not share information with the Honor Code Office about the complainant without the complainant’s consent.
    5.Adopt an amnesty clause.

    Because the recommendation regarding amnesty involves a change in policy, the exact contents of this clause need to be reviewed by the Student, Faculty and Administrative Advisory Councils before it becomes official policy. In the meantime, we will operate under the amnesty guidelines recommended in the report.

    More information about the report and what this means for BYU is contained at https://news.byu.edu/title-ix.

    We do not have all the answers to this problem, which is a nationwide issue affecting all colleges and universities. But this report provides an excellent framework on which to build. Because of the Advisory Council’s extremely valuable work, we are in a much stronger position to help those who have suffered the traumatic effects of sexual assault and to prevent such events in the future. Heightened awareness of the issue by each one of us is itself a step in the right direction. I encourage us all to aid in this important endeavor.

    Kevin J Worthen
    "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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    • On the surface that looks much better.

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      • Originally posted by kccougar View Post
        BYU just released the report from their sexual assault advisory committee. I like the recommendations, all of which President Worthen has said they are ready to adopt.
        God bless Kevin Worthen. I love that man.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
          On the surface that looks much better.
          lol
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            God bless Kevin Worthen. I love that man.
            Hear! Hear!

            We are so in the Big 12 now.

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            • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              lol
              Well, it's all about implementation isn't it? And, according to the release itself, it is going to have to go through committees. You can lol all day long, but unless it really is a good, thorough policy shift then it will not go away.

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              • Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
                Well, it's all about implementation isn't it? And, according to the release itself, it is going to have to go through committees. You can lol all day long, but unless it really is a good, thorough policy shift then it will not go away.
                Don't worry. Nothing substantial will change.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Don't worry. Nothing substantial will change.
                  That's what I suspect, but I always think in worst case scenarios.

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                  • Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
                    Well, it's all about implementation isn't it? And, according to the release itself, it is going to have to go through committees. You can lol all day long, but unless it really is a good, thorough policy shift then it will not go away.
                    lol

                    5.Adopt an amnesty clause.

                    Because the recommendation regarding amnesty involves a change in policy, the exact contents of this clause need to be reviewed by the Student, Faculty and Administrative Advisory Councils before it becomes official policy. In the meantime, we will operate under the amnesty guidelines recommended in the report.
                    That seems like a significantly good, thorough policy shift.
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • As someone who serves on committees like these, this is a clear mandate. I'm surprised, pleasantly so, that they are taking these steps. Now, if they would just kill the Honor Code Office completely, and let the Ecclesiastical Endorsement work, I'd be cool with BYU again.
                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        As someone who serves on committees like these, this is a clear mandate. I'm surprised, pleasantly so, that they are taking these steps. Now, if they would just kill the Honor Code Office completely, and let the Ecclesiastical Endorsement work, I'd be cool with BYU again.
                        I agree!

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                        • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                          As someone who serves on committees like these, this is a clear mandate. I'm surprised, pleasantly so, that they are taking these steps. Now, if they would just kill the Honor Code Office completely, and let the Ecclesiastical Endorsement work, I'd be cool with BYU again.
                          Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
                          I agree!
                          Follow President Worthen's example and operate as if they have killed it already so that you can hit the ground running when it eventually happens.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                          Dig your own grave, and save!

                          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • The Title IX office was located in the Honor Code office


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                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • BYU Updates Sexual Assault Policies

                              https://news.byu.edu/title-ix

                              I'm glad they've updated things, but the way it was done just seems like they're skirting the issue of how the HC applies to sexual assault victims. I didn't read everything (just the press release and Q&A) but enough to understand that the Title IX office will redact victims names before handing the cases to the HC office. That makes it seem like they're not really fixing the problem, just masking the names from the HC office so they can't enforce the HC with relation to the victims, but they would if they could.
                              Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                              - Howard Aiken

                              Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                              - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                              • Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
                                https://news.byu.edu/title-ix

                                I'm glad they've updated things, but the way it was done just seems like they're skirting the issue of how the HC applies to sexual assault victims. I didn't read everything (just the press release and Q&A) but enough to understand that the Title IX office will redact victims names before handing the cases to the HC office. That makes it seem like they're not really fixing the problem, just masking the names from the HC office so they can't enforce the HC with relation to the victims, but they would if they could.
                                Not sure I follow your logic. They are also adopting an amnesty clause. Did you miss that?

                                What would you have done differently?
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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