Just wanted to give '71 another reason to complain about the Honor Code

[old_gregg]

Hey so now you double down on rape comparisons and rape jokes with a clip dealing with trauma associated with child abuse.

Here you go junkie, there is your hero. Anyone who thinks I'm wrong about old Gregg being a horrible person, here is more evidence.



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you seem mad bro

[MartyFunkhouser]

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[Jeff Lebowski]

Funk buddy, this is a train wreck. Tap out and live to fight another day.

[falafel]

That is putting a lot of trust in an organization that hasn't really acted in a manner that inspires trust. This is the organization that felt it necessary to lie about caffeine demand on campus.

I guess it is better than the current option, but it still give the rapist the tool to silence a victim.

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Who else is going to do anything about it? You can't force the university to change the system to your liking. They will make whatever changes they feel are best and warranted. That it doesn't live up to your personal expectation is irrelevant.

[Pelado]

That is putting a lot of trust in an organization that hasn't really acted in a manner that inspires trust. This is the organization that felt it necessary to lie about caffeine demand on campus.

Nope, that wasn't the HCO.

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[MartyFunkhouser]

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[falafel]

So I'm the problem not the person comparing losing an online argument to rape and child abuse. Okay.

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I sincerely hope you have never once in your life casually joked about someone dropping the soap or your team getting bent over by a crappy ref.

[MartyFunkhouser]

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[Jeff Lebowski]

[falafel]

I probably have and now if I did and someone called me on it, I would like would recognize it was wrong.

Patton Oswalt had a great article discussing rape jokes. The problem with old Gregg is he is making the victim the subject of the joke, not the perpetrator. He is also minimizing something horrific by comparing it to something that isnt horrific.

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He's making you the subject of the joke.

[MartyFunkhouser]

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[CardiacCoug]

Krakauer's book Missoula was really eye-opening for me regarding rape culture on college campuses. I put off reading it for months because it seems like a such a downer topic but I highly recommend it.

After reading that book I concluded that as fanatical and weird as the Honor Code is, there is no doubt that BYU is much, much safer for young women because of the Honor Code and its enforcement. This idea among the SLTrib commenter types that rapists are running wild at BYU because girls are afraid of Honor Code prosecution is really dumb. I would think the Honor Code prevents dozens of rapes for every one that it "facilitates" by making women afraid to report (if that phenomenon even occurs at all).

I agree with those here who said it would be good to just leave Honor Code enforcement up to the Bishops and abolish the Honor Code office -- you get an Ecclesiastical Endorsement and you are good. Short of that, then I agree with CJ that temporary/conditional amnesty where the Honor Code office suspends any investigation until after the rape investigation/prosecution makes sense.

[Northwestcoug]

Krakauer's book Missoula was really eye-opening for me regarding rape culture on college campuses. I put off reading it for months because it seems like a such a downer topic but I highly recommend it.

After reading that book I concluded that as fanatical and weird as the Honor Code is, there is no doubt that BYU is much, much safer for young women because of the Honor Code and its enforcement. This idea among the SLTrib commenter types that rapists are running wild at BYU because girls are afraid of Honor Code prosecution is really dumb. I would think the Honor Code prevents dozens of rapes for every one that it "facilitates" by making women afraid to report (if that phenomenon even occurs at all).

I agree with those here who said it would be good to just leave Honor Code enforcement up to the Bishops and abolish the Honor Code office -- you get an Ecclesiastical Endorsement and you are good. Short of that, then I agree with CJ that temporary/conditional amnesty where the Honor Code office suspends any investigation until after the rape investigation/prosecution makes sense.

Are you saying the women quoted in the Trib article are lying???

[Jeff Lebowski]

Sure and he is doing it by saying that I'm in the position of a rape victim. Basically the hero of his joke is the person who put me in my place. See the problem?

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From Urban Dictionary:

Social Justice Warrior
Social Justice Warriors or SJWs are: People with paper thin skin who always find something to be offended about. They generally have no concept of humour. Words they commonly use include: intolerant offensive triggering sexist racist

[falafel]

Sure and he is doing it by saying that I'm in the position of a rape victim. Basically the hero of his joke is the person who put me in my place. See the problem?

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Not really. I don't think jokes of that nature have any real impact of the real issue, which is that rape is bad.