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    Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
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    • funk i get why you sympathize with rape victims after after seeing what happens when you attempt to advance a coherent argument in threads like these. keep up the good fight bro, don't let people who continually shit on you in something you are supposedly professionally trained to do get you down.
      Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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      • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
        All that options does is change the time frame it has the same problems as no amnesty. It still gives the rapist a tool to silence his victim. It is just the victim gets to wait for the legal process to play out until she has to deal with the honor code.

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        The problem, as I see it, is that amnesty just isn't a real option. I don't see any reason why the school should look the other way about a serious infraction of the school's Honor Code, which as we all know, the student agreed to abide by, just because the infraction coincided with a horrible event in the person's life. Being a victim of a crime does not absolve one of responsibility for their own actions.

        I can, on the other hand, see how it would be needlessly insensitive to pursue a full-scale Honor Code investigation at the same time the victim is struggling through the criminal justice system. Your solution simply gives the victim a free pass just because the thing that was done to them is worse than the thing they did. This shouldn't be a balancing act of which wrong was worse.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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          Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
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          • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
            funk i get why you sympathize with rape victims after after seeing what happens when you attempt to advance a coherent argument in threads like these. keep up the good fight bro, don't let people who continually shit on you in something you are supposedly professionally trained to do get you down.
            Wow. Lol. Funk is officially dead.
            *Banned*

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              Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
              --Kendrick Lamar

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                Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
                As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                --Kendrick Lamar

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                  Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
                  As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                  --Kendrick Lamar

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                  • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    Holy shit. You want the example of why you are a horrible person it is that right there.

                    Come at my argument asshole. Attack my ideas rather than attack me.

                    Do not minimize rape by comparing online discussions to rape.

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                    Nobody can hear you anymore. We know your wife had one nut in her purse, old Gregg just ripped the other one out and stomped on it. Game over Funk. No coming back from that.
                    *Banned*

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                      Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
                      As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                      --Kendrick Lamar

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                      • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                        Holy shit. You want the example of why you are a horrible person it is that right there.

                        Come at my argument asshole. Attack my ideas rather than attack me.

                        Do not minimize rape by comparing online discussions to rape.

                        Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
                        Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                          Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
                          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                          --Kendrick Lamar

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                          • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            Certainly there are normal people who do depraved things because of outside influences. And, there are laws that seek to punish those pathological outside influences (selling alcohol to minors, inciting to riot, etc.). I'm not saying that the HC needs to be punished legally, but when something causes people to break the law in depraved ways that they likely would not do otherwise, then something is amiss and needs to be rectified. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's....the HC should be about academics and campus life. Let the spiritual stuff be between the student, God, and his/her judge in Israel.
                            That's like saying marriage vows cause people who commit adultery to lie about it.

                            But that second part, I'm totally with you.

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                              Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 09:30 AM.
                              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                              --Kendrick Lamar

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                              • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                                All that options does is change the time frame it has the same problems as no amnesty. It still gives the rapist a tool to silence his victim. It is just the victim gets to wait for the legal process to play out until she has to deal with the honor code.

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                                As long as the victim is a victim, and not lying about it, they should have nothing to worry about. Even if it's a push, and turns into a he said she said, set the evidentiary level high enough for the HC Office to only take action against those who are likely lying.

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