Is BYU complicit in the abundance of substandard housing in Provo?

[Paperback Writer]

That wasn't my intent. The UVU guy was a good roommate. He didn't ask permission to watch my TV any other time. We'd jokingly ask him if he wanted us to wait and give him a ride to church while he got ready. His reply was "don't wait for me; do you mind if I watch the 49ers or Broncos game on your TV while you're away at church?"

[Clark Addison]

So let me get this straight. Provo has or will have UVU and BYU students living in the same apartment complexes. Does that mean that UVU and BYU students will be assigned to attend the same student ward? And only the BYU students will be required to attend church while the UVU students get to sleep in and watch football?!

This isn't new. When I was a freshly returned missionary over 20 years ago, I lived with a companion from my mission, two guys from "The Tech" (That's what we called it back then), and one guy who had graduated from BYU a couple of years back. As someone said, all three of the non-BYU students were expected to live by the same general rules, but there wouldn't have really been any consequences if they never went to church. They did go to church because they were spiritual people they wouldn't have really been able to date otherwise.

[Uncle Ted]

1) Carriage Cove contract. They only offered year-long contracts and I knew I was going home for the summer to work. I was told every renter who needed someone to assume a contract for the Summer was able to do so (something that I proved was false during mediation). The real problem came when Carriage Cove management discontinued HBO in their (illegal) Cable TV package and it was reported in the Daily Universe. Carriage Cove was a ghost town that summer. They took me to mediation to collect summer rent and lost. However, they did get to keep my security deposit. A few months later they took me back to mediation to try and collect damages caused by an outdoor grill that burned holes in the carpet on the balcony. They wanted money since I had already forfeited my security deposit on the past dispute. They lost again as the damage was caused by another renter over the summer who had the apartment all to himself.

At that rat infested place I stayed at we had (almost) "free" cable and HBO as well. About five of the apartments (all electrical engineering students) shared a single feed, wired via cable strung in the back. For HBO, we built highly tuned notch filters up in the electronics lab. That's all you needed to get HBO in those good ole analog days.

[Shaka]

My biggest issue was always the deposit. I always left my apartment better than I found it yet still had to give up a portion of the deposit. After this happened a few times I just told subsequent landlords, at the end of the contract, to keep the deposit and didn't clean a thing. Life was much better after I did this.

[Jeff Lebowski]

My biggest issue was always the deposit. I always left my apartment better than I found it yet still had to give up a portion of the deposit. After this happened a few times I just told subsequent landlords, at the end of the contract, to keep the deposit and didn't clean a thing. Life was much better after I did this.

That is not at all unique to BYU/Provo.

I agree with your strategy. We had a landlord refuse to return our deposit once because we a couple of light sockets empty and the carpets weren't clean enough. The reason we were moving was because the house had been purchased and was scheduled to be demolished as soon as we left.

[Bigfoot is Cain]

For 5 semesters, from 1997-2000, I lived at the Monticello apartments. They were across the street from the botany pond, an easy walk (when I used to be in shape) up the stairs to campus and really close to the testing center. They were cheap too. They were 3 bedroom, 2 bath units, with 6 guys. It seems like they were built using cinder block, so they were solid. There was a small outdoor pool and a basketball hoop, but there wasn't anything special about them. After my first year there, I thought that I could find something better. It was a big mistake.

I bought a contract for this place (https://goo.gl/maps/Pckk5CJ2sUk). I don't think it is approved anymore, and it shouldn't be. There are 4 units in the building. Each unit has 2 bedrooms and a bathroom, and the landlady had 6 guys living in each unit. By the time that I moved down there were already 2 guys in my room. There wasn't really enough room for 2 people in the room, and their stuff took up the entire closet and desk. I had to keep my stuff under my bed (a bunkbed). The kitchen and front room were equally tiny. It was miserable. I lasted less than a month because a miracle occurred. My former mission companion was dating a girl living in an apartment across the parking lot. He needed a place to stay, and he didn't need anything other than a place to sleep. He was very happy to buy my contract. At the end of September, I moved back to my parent's house in West Jordan and commuted for the rest of the semester. And one of my former Monticello roommates just happened to be getting married and needed to sell his contract for Winter.

I would defy even SeattleUte to deny the divine intervention in all of that.

[TexTechCoug]

The parents of my roommate from May Hall owned a house on 900 N just off University. I paid $50/month Spring/Summer and $100/month Fall/Winter. It was an awesome set-up. Super close to campus, cheap, and a really nice house. I'm just sharing this because I was extremely fortunate and never had to even worry about getting into one of the tenements around Provo.

[wuapinmon]

That is not at all unique to BYU/Provo.

I agree with your strategy. We had a landlord refuse to return our deposit once because we a couple of light sockets empty and the carpets weren't clean enough. The reason we were moving was because the house had been purchased and was scheduled to be demolished as soon as we left.

We had one keep our deposit because the walls were "covered in grease near the ceiling." When I pointed out that she had an unvented gas stovetop in a kitchen with a low ceiling and no windows, it made sense that any moisture produced in cooking after 3 years would find its way onto the walls. The house was otherwise immaculate. She kept our $700. I still hate that bitch.

[MartyFunkhouser]

For 5 semesters, from 1997-2000, I lived at the Monticello apartments. They were across the street from the botany pond, an easy walk (when I used to be in shape) up the stairs to campus and really close to the testing center. They were cheap too. They were 3 bedroom, 2 bath units, with 6 guys. It seems like they were built using cinder block, so they were solid. There was a small outdoor pool and a basketball hoop, but there wasn't anything special about them. After my first year there, I thought that I could find something better. It was a big mistake.

I bought a contract for this place (https://goo.gl/maps/Pckk5CJ2sUk). I don't think it is approved anymore, and it shouldn't be. There are 4 units in the building. Each unit has 2 bedrooms and a bathroom, and the landlady had 6 guys living in each unit. By the time that I moved down there were already 2 guys in my room. There wasn't really enough room for 2 people in the room, and their stuff took up the entire closet and desk. I had to keep my stuff under my bed (a bunkbed). The kitchen and front room were equally tiny. It was miserable. I lasted less than a month because a miracle occurred. My former mission companion was dating a girl living in an apartment across the parking lot. He needed a place to stay, and he didn't need anything other than a place to sleep. He was very happy to buy my contract. At the end of September, I moved back to my parent's house in West Jordan and commuted for the rest of the semester. And one of my former Monticello roommates just happened to be getting married and needed to sell his contract for Winter.

I would defy even SeattleUte to deny the divine intervention in all of that.

I deny that there was divine intervention.