Polygamy justification?

[Indy Coug]

I think you need to put your D&C aside and read some real books; maybe get on an international flight and get around a bit. I think you lack wisdom.

I've lived overseas for nearly half of my life. I've got perspective coming out my ass.

[LA Ute]

How many apostates exist here on CUF? SU, Robin, myself, others?

"Apostate" is a strong word. I've always thought it referred to people who've left the church completely and are no longer members. Is your name still on the membership rolls, Jarid? (I think SU once said his is.) If so, do you have home teachers hopefully standing on your front porch now and then?

[UtahDan]

How many apostates exist here on CUF? SU, Robin, myself, others?

There are a bunch of others. Non Sequitur and Blue Hair jump to mind. I know there are more.

[Jeff Lebowski]

There are a bunch of others. Non Sequitur and Blue Hair jump to mind. I know there are more.

Don't forget Solon.

[UtahDan]

Don't forget Solon.

I'm sending you the dry cleaning bill for the diet coke that was in my mouth, but is now down the front of my white shirt by way of my nose (I wear these to work, never to church).

[Jarid in Cedar]

"Apostate" is a strong word. I've always thought it referred to people who've left the church completely and are no longer members. Is your name still on the membership rolls, Jarid? (I think SU once said his is.) If so, do you have home teachers hopefully standing on your front porch now and then?

I like the word "apostate" in the sense that it is piled onto me by many of my wife's family. I kind of wear it like a badge to remind me of the trail that lead me to this point.

For your second question, my name is still on the roles. The home teachers visit monthly. My wife has and always will be active. I have been the EQ's quarterly project on a routine basis over the last 10 years(we've lived in 5 wards over that time). It's laughable how many times the following phrase has been applied to me and my wife "She is such a sweet sister, and he is such a good honest person, I just can't see why he doesn't come to church." This is generally the sstatement that generates a few inquiries into "what my hang ups are and what questions can we help you with", but most of these well meaning elders don't really want to talk about these things when they ask.

For definition purpose, I thought apostate meant one that is a member but doesn't follow(had fallen away), and ex-member was the term for someone who had be removed from the rolls(by their choice or by church action).

[Jarid in Cedar]

Don't forget Solon.

I'm sending you the dry cleaning bill for the diet coke that was in my mouth, but is now down the front of my white shirt by way of my nose (I wear these to work, never to church).

There is an inside joke here that I likely will never understand.

[Jeff Lebowski]

There is an inside joke here that I likely will never understand.

Solon won the "Best Apostate" Cuffie last year, but he isn't really an apostate. Somebody nominated him and he ended up getting the most votes.

[SeattleUte]

I've lived overseas for nearly half of my life. I've got perspective coming out my ass.

Than you are a prime example of a phenomenon I've observed. People who think it's always all about them and visit places in bosy but rarely in mind or spirit. The 911 Terrorists who spen years in the US and Europe are an extreme and clear example. I once heard a well traveled Mormon explain that Michelangelo created so many "Catholic paintings" because the Church "made him do it."

[SeattleUte]

"Apostate" is a strong word. I've always thought it referred to people who've left the church completely and are no longer members. Is your name still on the membership rolls, Jarid? (I think SU once said his is.) If so, do you have home teachers hopefully standing on your front porch now and then?

Some really don't know or really care about their membership status.

Personally, I never received a summons, but I haven't expected due process.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Solon won the "Best Apostate" Cuffie last year, but he isn't really an apostate. Somebody nominated him and he ended up getting the most votes.

Sweet. I don't think I will be campaigning next year. I already live in enough hot water with my wife.

[LA Ute]

Some really don't know or really care about their membership status.

Personally, I never received a summons, but I haven't expected due process.

I don't think you qualify as an apostate. I am going to start referring to you as a "hard-core less-active." (Not an official designation, just one I made up.)

[il Padrino Ute]

SU - I'm still waiting to know why you think I'm orthodox?

[LA Ute]

For definition purpose, I thought apostate meant one that is a member but doesn't follow(had fallen away), and ex-member was the term for someone who had be removed from the rolls(by their choice or by church action).

I don't really know. But I can assure you that at regular intervals for the rest of your life, a succession of various priesthood leaders are going to read Luke 15 and think of you, which will be followed in short order by a visit to your home.

Should be fun.

[LA Ute]

SU - I'm still waiting to know why you think I'm orthodox?

Well, I have met you, IPU, and I know you don't look very orthodox.