Polygamy justification?

[LA Ute]

SHUT UP.

I like this. Short, to the point, with an unmistakable message.

[Jarid in Cedar]

That's why I prefer "wuss," although I've never checked the etymology there.

I think that "Wuss" is a less offensive way of saying "puss" so the same etymology likely applies.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Are you saying he is trolling? I assure you Indy means all of this ugliness. It's funny that you say Indy is "playing" us when all he is spouting is the most essential Mormon dogma. It's telling how jarringly inelegant and nonsensical it sounds stated so starkly on a message board. I think I've made it clear that I don't take his message seriously enough to address it in a sober way.

If anyone wants to have a serious discussion about the panorama of Mormon history from Palmyra to the Great Basin; about Mormonism's place in the family tree of religions; about Mormonism's being the but for cause of even someone like myself's values; Joseph's status as a genuine American prophet in his own right; the long philosophical road that led to Christianity; the interplay of freedom of religion and separation of church and state; the obligations and blessings associated with freedom of speech, and so forth, I'm game. But come at me with the old chauvenism and I won't respond seriously.

But here's what I'm wondering. For those who subscribe to the one true church model, who see the world in those (limiting) terms, here's what I don't get. Why doesn't the LDS Church being centuries late to the civil rights "group hug" of itself disqualify it as a candidate? How could it get so totally wrong something so absolutely monumental and so central to human progress? That's my question to such people. (It's no wonder Indy downplays tolerance as a pramount value and human aspiration.)

When I saw Indy's posts this morning, I thought "Wow, that is a big, huge, juicy pile of bait intended specifically to get a rise out of SU. Surely he won't fall for something that blatant." I was wrong.

There may be an element of sincerity to Indy's posts. But it seems to me that he carefully crafts the presentation sometimes to get the maximum reaction from his audience. Kind of like your use of hyperbole in all things LDS-related. I try not to take either too seriously.

[il Padrino Ute]

I'll say this for those here such as yourself who hold the orthodox line. You're an eloquent bunch.

I ask this in all sincerity and honesty - what makes you think I'm orthodox?

[Jarid in Cedar]

Does God allow messageboard posting between kingdoms in the hereafter?

he said that communications and visits from the upper to the lower kingdoms are allowed, so I guess if you want to send messages from upon high to my lowly tier, you probably can, but I would not be able to return the favor. So I better take advantage of the messageboards as long as I can before the millenium is upon us.

[Jarid in Cedar]

When I saw Indy's posts this morning, I thought "Wow, that is a big, huge, juicy pile of bait intended specifically to get a rise out of SU. Surely he won't fall for something that blatant." I was wrong.

There may be an element of sincerity to Indy's posts. But it seems to me that he carefully crafts the presentation sometimes to get the maximum reaction from his audience. Kind of like your use of hyperbole in all things LDS-related. I try not to take either too seriously.

Indy pushed the right button at the right time. Pull that card out too early and the response is absent. Pull it out too late, and the moment is lost.

[SeattleUte]

When I saw Indy's posts this morning, I thought "Wow, that is a big, huge, juicy pile of bait intended specifically to get a rise out of SU. Surely he won't fall for something that blatant." I was wrong.

There may be an element of sincerity to Indy's posts. But it seems to me that he carefully crafts the presentation sometimes to get the maximum reaction from his audience. Kind of like your use of hyperbole in all things LDS-related. I try not to take either too seriously.

You know as well as I do Indy's statements are only crafty because they articulate (parody?) orthodox Mormon attitudes so accurately. I really don't know what Indy's beliefs are. But he's got the archetype Mormon thing down. Really the way I think this thing developed is he bristled when I said I thought a primary purpose of our being on earth (if there is any) is to learn tolerance. His answer was visceral and genuine. He thinks "temple vows" are more important than tolerance. He replied in a mildly disparaging way and I cuffed him probably harder than he deserved, though he did respond with the old self-satisfied smugness. Where Mormons get that is one of the world's wonders. Humans are enigmatic animals.

[Indy Coug]

When I saw Indy's posts this morning, I thought "Wow, that is a big, huge, juicy pile of bait intended specifically to get a rise out of SU. Surely he won't fall for something that blatant." I was wrong.

There may be an element of sincerity to Indy's posts. But it seems to me that he carefully crafts the presentation sometimes to get the maximum reaction from his audience. Kind of like your use of hyperbole in all things LDS-related. I try not to take either too seriously.

When a CUF religion thread gets out to 200 replies (and often even sooner), it inevitably devolves into an SU rant about LDS racism/sexism/homophobia. At that point the thread is effectively dead and so the only remaining sport is to use hyperbole to poke at SU's own -isms.

[SeattleUte]

Indy pushed the right button at the right time. Pull that card out too early and the response is absent. Pull it out too late, and the moment is lost.

I feel flattered. It used to be Indy ignored me. I PM'd him once on CB, in a friendly way but trying to broaden his horizons, and he told me to keep my filthy apostate messages out of his mail box. I obliged.

[SeattleUte]

When a CUF religion thread gets out to 200 replies (and often even sooner), it inevitably devolves into an SU rant about LDS racism/sexism/homophobia. At that point the thread is effectively dead and so the only remaining sport is to use hyperbole to poke at SU's own -isms.

Hyperbole? Your posts seemed straight forward and to the point to me; you even quoted a line from the POGP. I'm shocked you're referring to your faith's central tenet in such a disparaging way.

[SeattleUte]

Even though I've been a bit a troll lately, I still stick to my stopping at Boardwalk and not passing Go analogy. Your finish line isn't much of a selling point compared to what Mormon theology offers. Inviting your gay black neighbors over for a BBQ is a bit of an underwhelming ultimate human aspiration.

I think you need to put your D&C aside and read some real books; maybe get on an international flight and get around a bit. I think you lack wisdom.

[wuapinmon]

I think you need to put your D&C aside and read some real books; maybe get on an international flight and get around a bit. I think you lack wisdom.

Then let him ask of God.

[LA Ute]

I think that "Wuss" is a less offensive way of saying "puss" so the same etymology likely applies.

OK, I broke down and checked. Merriam-Webster Onlinehas it:

Main Entry: wuss
Pronunciation: \ˈwus\
Variant(s): also wus·sy \ˈwu-sē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural wuss·es also wus·sies
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1976
: wimp
— wussy adjective

[Jarid in Cedar]

How many apostates exist here on CUF? SU, Robin, myself, others?

[Jarid in Cedar]

OK, I broke down and checked. Merriam-Webster Onlinehas it:

Main Entry: wuss
Pronunciation: \ˈwus\
Variant(s): also wus·sy \ˈwu-sē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural wuss·es also wus·sies
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1976
: wimp
— wussy adjective

Thanks for the info. I haven't figured out this fandangled internet thingy yet.