2015 October General Conference Thread

[Sleeping in EQ]

Those of you who can't resist the humanities professor smack should go ponderize this:


http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...-results-Uconn

[imanihonjin]

I have a quote in my signature from Harry Tic that reads, "[...] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]liberals tend to take the moral teachings of the New Testament literally and the stories figuratively while conservatives do the opposite." This leads to narratives like this one:


https://explorelegacyrealestate.word...orrells-story/

The mixing of inspiration, sacredness, and prophetic profit are an extension of the process you describe above, building monuments on the ruins. I get what you're saying.

Sorry that is a stupid quote. No offense Harry.

[TripletDaddy]

Those of you who can't resist the humanities professor smack should go ponderize this:


http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...-results-Uconn

Second place? I think that is basically the entire essence of the humanities professor smack, no?

[Harry Tic]

Sorry that is a stupid quote. No offense Harry.

I've got lots more where that came from.

[wuapinmon]

Sorry that is a stupid quote. No offense Harry.

You wouldn't know a stupid quote if it came up to you and said, "Sorry [sic] that is a stupid quote. No offense [sic] Harry."

[Sullyute]

Ponder + memorize.

I wonder how those poor translators handled that one. If only there were a Spanish-speaking apostle! He would never have let Durrant make that mistake.

We had one, but he just died and was replaced with a Japanese speaking Apostle.

[Uncle Ted]

Apparently inside trading happens in the church all the time... Durrant just made his too obvious.

Inside Trading in the LDS Church


The big story from conference weekend is that of "ponderize." Devin Durrant, first counselor in the Sunday School Presidency, wrote a talk around the term. Meanwhile, his son and daughter-in-law registered an affiliated website on September 27th selling t-shirts and wristbands of the meme.


This is a rather egregious example of profiteering off the church. The feedback was overwhelmingly negative and speedy. There were many changes to the site from the time the talk was given until that evening. At first, the t-shirts, priced at 17.99, were dropped to 9.99, with a message placed on the site that they were being sold at cost to get the word out. Then, the prices went back up with a message that all profits were going to the missionary fund. By 10:45pm Sunday, the site was taken down.


It would be nice to think that this is an isolated occurrence, and that this sort of thing doesn't happen very often. It would also be incorrect to think so.


The fact is that the church is large and wealthy. Billions of dollars change hands every day. To think that every person directly involved as well as the family and friends of every person involved would avoid profiting off of privileged information is naive indeed.


Case Study: Zwick Construction
Elder Craig Zwick has been a member of the 70 since 1995. He also happens to be the former owner and CEO (his son now runs it) of Zwick Construction, who has built or remodeled 8 temples, 9 chapels, and several other buildings for the church. This amounts to over 100 million in construction revenue from the church. Is this a conflict of interest?


Case Study: The Gilbert Arizona Temple
When a temple is announced, property values adjacent to the proposed site double overnight. Anyone with advanced knowledge of a temple announcement, therefore, stands to profit enormously by purchasing the adjacent properties before the announcement is made. The LeSueur family, who owned over 200 acres of farmland in Gilbert, managed to convince the church to build a temple on land they donated. The LeSueurs were able to convert the zoning of the adjacent land to residential, and now are developing a gated neighborhood of 262 homes. David LeSueur was called to be president of said temple.


The same story occurred with the Oquirrh Mountain Temple and the Draper temple. Companies donated the land for the temple and made an incredible amount on the increase in property value of the surrounding lots.

http://upwardthought.blogspot.com/20...ds-church.html

[TripletDaddy]

i love the "property value doubling" urban legend.

[Harry Tic]

i love the "property value doubling" urban legend.

You know what happened with property values in Manhattan after the church built the temple there, right? Used to be affordable and now it's crazy expensive.

[TripletDaddy]

You know what happened with property values in Manhattan after the church built the temple there, right? Used to be affordable and now it's crazy expensive.

Fortunately for me, I was able to buy Lincoln Center right before the announcement. Made a killing

[Uncle Ted]

I know someone that owns some land up near the church's Heber Valley Girls Camp. When the church developed it into a girls camp it did nothing for his property value. However, with Julie Rowe and the other LDS preppers all saying the girls camp will become a "place of refuge" or "city of light" or what not... the property value has been soaring.

[imanihonjin]

You wouldn't know a stupid quote if it came up to you and said, "Sorry [sic] that is a stupid quote. No offense [sic] Harry."

Sure I would. I just told you that was a stupid quote.

[Harry Tic]

I know someone that owns some land up near the church's Heber Valley Girls Camp. When the church developed it into a girls camp it did nothing for his property value. However, with Julie Rowe and the other LDS preppers all saying the girls camp will become a "place of refuge" or "city of light" or what not... the property value has been soaring.

Julie Rowe once said that the houses that surround mine would be a "neighborhood of light." Feel free to pass this info-nugget around to anyone you know who works in the real estate industry.

[Moliere]

i love the "property value doubling" urban legend.

And billions of dollars changing hands everyday I'm fairly certain the church doesn't have a billion dollars in cash with which to hand from person to person.

[TripletDaddy]

Julie Rowe once said that the houses that surround mine would be a "neighborhood of light." Feel free to pass this info-nugget around to anyone you know who works in the real estate industry.

I'm sending an email to Thomas Kinkade right now.