Apostle Pick'em Contest

[Sullyute]

I wonder how many future apostles are not being accepted by BYU.

Hard to say... do they also publish what percentage of applications are from Utah residents?

[Color Me Badd Fan]

It's late 80's now, is it? How are you determining this? It sure isn't due to acceptance rates.

Applications went from around 7,500 in 1980 to 8,900 in 1990. The number of students admitted differed by around 70 students total. You do the math.

All I know is this, my mother got pretty average grades in high school, Bs and Cs. She grew up in the bay area and planned on going to BYU the whole time. She told me it was basically open enrollment and almost anyone that wanted to go would be accepted. A 90% acceptance rate bears that out. My father has told me the same thing.

People that gets Cs, Ds, etc in high school aren't people that are typically planning to go to college, especially in the 1960s. The few that did were the 10% getting rejected. How many people with 3.0 GPAs are applying to BYU at this point?

The church went from a population of 2.8 million in 1969 to 8 million in 1991 (I chose 1991, because 8 million is easily divisible and the church has just barely crossed that population threshhold). For the sake of argument, let's assume 80% of the LDS population in 1969 resided in the US vs. 1/2 in 1991. That's 2.25 domestic members and their kids vs. 4 million. Number of students accepted in 1991 -- 6,189. Number of students accepted in 1969 -- 6,096. But I guess we just have to assume that the entrance expectations were the same despite the massive increase in the LDS domestic population and the reputation it had gained that it was difficult to get into and 3.0 GPA high school students need not apply.

[TripletDaddy]

there used to be a rumor that any RM automatically was admitted to BYU.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Applications went from around 7,500 in 1980 to 8,900 in 1990. The number of students admitted differed by around 70 students total. You do the math.

All I know is this, my mother got pretty average grades in high school, Bs and Cs. She grew up in the bay area and planned on going to BYU the whole time. She told me it was basically open enrollment and almost anyone that wanted to go would be accepted. A 90% acceptance rate bears that out. My father has told me the same thing.

People that gets Cs, Ds, etc in high school aren't people that are typically planning to go to college, especially in the 1960s. The few that did were the 10% getting rejected. How many people with 3.0 GPAs are applying to BYU at this point?

The church went from a population of 2.8 million in 1969 to 8 million in 1991 (I chose 1991, because 8 million is easily divisible and the church has just barely crossed that population threshhold). For the sake of argument, let's assume 80% of the LDS population in 1969 resided in the US vs. 1/2 in 1991. That's 2.25 domestic members and their kids vs. 4 million. Number of students accepted in 1991 -- 6,189. Number of students accepted in 1969 -- 6,096. But I guess we just have to assume that the entrance expectations were the same despite the massive increase in the LDS domestic population and the reputation it had gained that it was difficult to get into and 3.0 GPA high school students need not apply.

I.e., you have some anecdotes and wild guesses. That's what I figured.

The only way we could determine if Elder Rasband was lying (your assertion) or perhaps mistaken would be to find out what his grades/test scores were and then compare that to the acceptance thresholds that were in place in 1969 at both BYU and Utah. And please don't pretend that the 88% acceptance rate means that 88% of Utah HS grads that year could have made it. The data from 2005, etc. clearly indicate that is not the case. Easier in 1969 than now? Absolutely. Automatic (or the same as Utah)? No way.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I thoroughly enjoyed this article by Elder Renland's nephew highlighting his ethnic diversity and found it to be on point. I bet you complainers are feeling pretty stupid now.

http://www.mormonobserver.com/2015/1...-already-there

[Jeff Lebowski]

I thoroughly enjoyed this article by Elder Renland's nephew highlighting his ethnic diversity and found it to be on point. I bet you complainers are feeling pretty stupid now.

http://www.mormonobserver.com/2015/1...-already-there

I am really impressed with this guy.

In his late 20s, Dale was called to be the bishop of a newly-formed, inner-city, multi-cultural ward in Baltimore. (During this time he was also doing his medical residency and trying to support his wife who was in law school and going through chemotherapy for ovarian cancer).

Sheesh. I can't imagine.

[pellegrino]

I thoroughly enjoyed this article by Elder Renland's nephew highlighting his ethnic diversity and found it to be on point. I bet you complainers are feeling pretty stupid now.

http://www.mormonobserver.com/2015/1...-already-there

Lisa? Nephew?

[Flystripper]

I am really impressed with this guy.



Sheesh. I can't imagine.

Wow. That's just ridiculous. Move over mother Theresa

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Lisa? Nephew?

Ha! Must be a Swedish thing.

[TripletDaddy]

those are cool experiences but if we go that route then BYU is a diverse university because so many students have lived abroad, speak other languages, served missions, and maybe come from european ancestry. Also, the same could be said about pretty much every Apostle (serving abroad, experiencing other cultures, etc).

its cool to own the whiteness. just own it.

[Harry Tic]

its cool to own the whiteness. just own it.

White is the new Black.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Wow. That's just ridiculous. Move over mother Theresa

Funny.

My son is doing his residency. He works 12- to 16-hr days, seven days per week, and gets about one day off per month. I just don't see how that would be logistically possible to be a bishop and a resident at the same time.

[TripletDaddy]

Funny.

My son is doing his residency. He works 12- to 16-hr days, seven days per week, and gets about one day off per month. I just don't see how that would be logistically possible to be a bishop and a resident at the same time.

your son sounds so ethnic!

[smokymountainrain]

I thoroughly enjoyed this article by Elder Renland's nephew highlighting his ethnic diversity and found it to be on point. I bet you complainers are feeling pretty stupid now.

http://www.mormonobserver.com/2015/1...-already-there

i had to double check to ensure that wasn't an Onion article.

[smokymountainrain]

Funny.

My son is doing his residency. He works 12- to 16-hr days, seven days per week, and gets about one day off per month. I just don't see how that would be logistically possible to be a bishop and a resident at the same time.

delegation, baby!