BRM not all that orthodox

[grapevine]

From his writings and sermons would think so, but didn't really seem that way. I am reading the Mortal MessiH sereis right now and he failed on Pharisical sabbath rules said no way anyone kept them all. And the question of what authors, farmers, carpenters and the like could do on sBbTh he lRgely left it unanswered like we do todY. Did say we should not do unneccasary temporal labor but one seed one word didn,t answer question.

Wife one of those woman who had all those great ideas to perfect her family, he told her to relax. A GA telling his wife to relax. Told Stake Presidents don,t overburden students with callings, and it is ok to study on occasion on Sunday when church obligations were done.

Food faddist told him about people eating ham and chocolate told her that is what 12 ate after last temple meeting. Never wore a suit when he was not in office or meeting. So though stern at pulpit and writings those that associated with him personally he seemed like laid back great to be around.

[Harry Tic]

From his writings and sermons would think so, but didn't really seem that way. I am reading the Mortal MessiH sereis right now and he failed on Pharisical sabbath rules said no way anyone kept them all. And the question of what authors, farmers, carpenters and the like could do on sBbTh he lRgely left it unanswered like we do todY. Did say we should not do unneccasary temporal labor but one seed one word didn,t answer question.

Wife one of those woman who had all those great ideas to perfect her family, he told her to relax. A GA telling his wife to relax. Told Stake Presidents don,t overburden students with callings, and it is ok to study on occasion on Sunday when church obligations were done.

Food faddist told him about people eating ham and chocolate told her that is what 12 ate after last temple meeting. Never wore a suit when he was not in office or meeting. So though stern at pulpit and writings those that associated with him personally he seemed like laid back great to be around.

Don't forget about the (possibly apocryphal) story of BRM cracking open a can of Coke at the pulpit to put to rest the old folklore about Mormons not drinking caffeine.

Nice idea for a thread, grapevine.

[TripletDaddy]

Bruce Redd McConkie: laid back and great to be around!

[pellegrino]

Bruce Redd McConkie: laid back and great to be around!

that's the beginning of a great ad campaign!

[Jeff Lebowski]

Let's not forget the story where Bruce Redd was eating at someone's house and they were about to serve chocolate cake for dessert and someone asked if chocolate cake was against the word of wisdom because it contains caffeine. Supposedly, BRM said that if somebody didn't want to eat their piece he'd be happy to have seconds. Man, that dude was chill!

[old_gregg]

BRM and george lincoln rockwell: two eminently chill bros i'd love to play a round of golf with

[PaloAltoCougar]

BRM's son was on my floor freshman year, and we took a bus up to his SLC home one Sunday evening for a fireside with BRM and I was given the opportunity to purchase an autographed copy of Mormon Doctrine. Sadly, apparently an Austrian postal worker with an eye for valuable keepsakes prevented its arrival during my mission.

But I have other examples of BRM's chill nature. During a stake conference visit, his wife spoke first and fainted. While she was on the floor, with concerned attendants working on her, BRM stepped over her to the podium and began his talk with "She'll be fine.... In Isaiah we read...." Although I did not witness this event, it was a favored anecdote among the GAs at the time.

[SeattleUte]

All your condescension is noted. You all mock, but the fact is McConkie is the only person who ever had the gumption and to try to make coherent sense out of the mishmash, the mess of folklore that makes up Mormonism. In the seventies he was one of the GA superstars, beloved by mainstream Mormons, and MD was near caonon. If you follow the arc of his celebrity during his life and afterlife, I see him as a genuine Ahab. Mormon Doctrine was the great elusive Leviathan he chased that gave him purpose and the pseudointellectual distinction he craved -- and ultimately it undid him.

[TripletDaddy]

BRM's son was on my floor freshman year, and we took a bus up to his SLC home one Sunday evening for a fireside with BRM and I was given the opportunity to purchase an autographed copy of Mormon Doctrine. Sadly, apparently an Austrian postal worker with an eye for valuable keepsakes prevented its arrival during my mission.

But I have other examples of BRM's chill nature. During a stake conference visit, his wife spoke first and fainted. While she was on the floor, with concerned attendants working on her, BRM stepped over her to the podium and began his talk with "She'll be fine.... In Isaiah we read...." Although I did not witness this event, it was a favored anecdote among the GAs at the time.

ha that anecdote reminds me of a strikingly similar experience I had with a son of B-Redd. Was your floor mate Joseph Fielding McConkie? I had him for a religion class at BYU. He loved speaking at great length about his time as a mission president in Scotland. One day I went over to his office to ask for some clarification on a test answer that I had been docked. He was very short with me and then at the end of the visit he asked if I would be interested in buying a copy of his book, "The Man Adam." I told him I didnt have the funds and he informed me that there was a copy in the HBLL if I wanted to read it.

[SandYFan]

But I have other examples of BRM's chill nature. During a stake conference visit, his wife spoke first and fainted. While she was on the floor, with concerned attendants working on her, BRM stepped over her to the podium and began his talk with "She'll be fine.... In Isaiah we read...." Although I did not witness this event, it was a favored anecdote among the GAs at the time.

That seems very much in character, even if the story is false.

Got my hands on a copy of Mormon Doctrine while on my mission. It was my first introduction to it, and even as a pretty hard-line elder, most of it struck me as funny at the time.

[Harry Tic]

Has anyone ever written a good biography of BRM? I suspect that in the hands of a skilled storyteller, that would be a great read.

Interesting how his star has waned. SU's right: he was one of the last intellectually ambitious GAs who thought it worthwhile (and thought himself qualified) to work out the implications of the dogma in a serious and sustained way.

[Jeff Lebowski]

All your condescension is noted. You all mock, but the fact is McConkie is the only person who ever had the gumption and to try to make coherent sense out of the mishmash, the mess of folklore that makes up Mormonism. In the seventies he was one of the GA superstars, beloved by mainstream Mormons, and MD was near caonon. If you follow the arc of his celebrity during his life and afterlife, I see him as a genuine Ahab. Mormon Doctrine was the great elusive Leviathan he chased that gave him purpose and the pseudointellectual distinction he craved -- and ultimately it undid him.

You have posted this a number of times. I enjoy it every time.

[Harry Tic]

You have posted this a number of times. I enjoy it every time.

I'd be curious to know more about SU means by "and it undid him." Is there some kind of Willy Loman story here that I'm not aware of?

SU, when you get tired of the Jesus stuff you should think about writing a biography of BRM. I'd read it.

[TripletDaddy]

I'd be curious to know more about SU means by "and it undid him." Is there some kind of Willy Loman story here that I'm not aware of?

SU, when you get tired of the Jesus stuff you should think about writing a biography of BRM. I'd read it.

The BRM bio will be SeattleUte's triumphant sequel. Tentative working title: Pathos.

[creekster]

The BRM bio will be SeattleUte's triumphant sequel. Tentative working title: Pathos.

So BRM is the literary descendant of Virgi(e)l?