Meet the Mormons

[MarkGrace]

Lying for the Lord:



Wonder where that argument originated.

What does attendance have to do with getting it on netflix? There's a load of stuff on netlix that nobody saw in the theater or that didn't even get a theater release.

[All-American]

What does attendance have to do with getting it on netflix? There's a load of stuff on netlix that nobody saw in the theater or that didn't even get a theater release.

Two theories. One, it's necessary to demonstrate demand. Two, it has nothing to do with getting it on Netflix, but the people schilling out $15 to watch it in theaters to get it on netflix to take it don't need to know that.

[LiveCoug]

Where are people spending 15 bucks for a movie ticket? California? NYC?

[All-American]

Where are people spending 15 bucks for a movie ticket? California? NYC?

They're taking their spouse, silly.

[LiveCoug]

They're taking their spouse, silly.

Where are people spending 7.50 for a movie ticket? Montana? South Dakota?

[Northwestcoug]

Where are people spending 15 bucks for a movie ticket? California? NYC?

14 bucks buys the 3D version in my parts.

[LVAllen]

14 bucks buys the 3D version in my parts.

Isn't the 3D version of this just saying hello to the person sitting next to you?

[MarkGrace]

lol @ LC

[Moliere]

http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865....google.com%2F

#10 movie of the week and #1 in some markets

[All-American]

Where are people spending 7.50 for a movie ticket? Montana? South Dakota?

That's the price for the place down the street from me in OK. Well, for seniors, anyway.

[ewth8tr]

http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865....google.com%2F

#10 movie of the week and #1 in some markets

#10 of Friday and Saturday, it won't stay in the top ten once Sunday ticket sales are counted.

[TripletDaddy]

Deseret news refers to the movie in the fist paragraph as a male, not a female. Doesn't the church own Deseret news?

[CardiacCoug]

Just was looking through my spam email and saw the letter from my stake saying "all proceeds from the film go to the Red Cross."

Was thinking about the three ways this idea could be communicated with varying levels of honesty:

1. All proceeds from the film go to the Red Cross. (Just plain dishonest.)

2. Net proceeds from the film go to the Red Cross (this is the most honest the Church has been -- intentionally misleads people who will skip right over the word "net" or don't understand what that word means.)

3. The Church will use proceeds from the film to pay for the film's production. Any profit after the Church recovers expenses related to producing the film will be given to the Red Cross. (Unambiguous and completely honest in my opinion.)

[cowboy]

#10 of Friday and Saturday, it won't stay in the top ten once Sunday ticket sales are counted.

Given sold out showings in the Mormon-dense cities of New York, Miami, and Detroit, you are probably right. Sarcasm aside, I really do have a hard time believing that all of those sold out showings are from stakes buying out theaters, which suggests interest by non-Mormons. I have a hard time believing non-Mormons would want to see it, but there are at least some data that point to that conclusion.

Just was looking through my spam email and saw the letter from my stake saying "all proceeds from the film go to the Red Cross."

Was thinking about the three ways this idea could be communicated with varying levels of honesty:

1. All proceeds from the film go to the Red Cross. (Just plain dishonest.)

2. Net proceeds from the film go to the Red Cross (this is the most honest the Church has been -- intentionally misleads people who will skip right over the word "net" or don't understand what that word means.)

3. The Church will use proceeds from the film to pay for the film's production. Any profit after the Church recovers expenses related to producing the film will be given to the Red Cross. (Unambiguous and completely honest in my opinion.)

Not to offend, but I think you're trying too hard. There doesn't seem to be anything dishonest about saying net proceeds go to charity. Your stake made a mistake by omitting net, but it has been clear enough in other, church-wide communication. Moreover, I'm not sure that you are correct that the church is planning to recover production costs.

Generally speaking, the use of the term 'net proceeds' refers to the portion of ticket sales that go to the production company after the theaters take their share. Since the church originally created this to be shown in the Joseph Smith Building, they were planning on taking a loss, so I would think that they are not planning to cover production costs, and instead are donating actual net proceeds. That's the correct phrase, and there is nothing "intentionally misleading" about it. If they are planning to recover production costs before donating, 'profits' should replace 'net proceeds.' Still, I'm not sure it matters much, as the church doesn't benefit in either scenario.

I'm not a fan of showing this movie in theaters, or in trying to guilt members into going. That said, it should come as no surprise to anyone that we produced this movie. We are a proselyting church, and we want people to know us and what we are about. Also, I don't think it's dishonest to show non-traditional members, as I see it as a way of telling people that there is a place in the church for people of any ethnicity and many walks of life. Finally, no matter how much pressure the local leaders put on members, nobody is forcing members to go. They aren't going to lose their callings or temple recommends if they stay home and keep their money in their pocket (which is probably what I'll do), and they can only feel guilty for not going if they allow themselves to.

[ewth8tr]

Given sold out showings in the Mormon-dense cities of New York, Miami, and Detroit, you are probably right. Sarcasm aside, I really do have a hard time believing that all of those sold out showings are from stakes buying out theaters, which suggests interest by non-Mormons. I have a hard time believing non-Mormons would want to see it, but there are at least some data that point to that conclusion.

It was shown in only 317 theaters nationwide, so just because there were sold out showings in those cities, doesn't mean there was huge demand in those cities, we have no idea how many theaters were showing it in those cities.