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[Babs]

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...24198/abstract

Article after article after article like this. It goes on and on. If somebody were going to pay my freelance rate, I'd be happy to construct a proper bibliography. In the meantime, there's far too much to try to post a representative sample.

[RobinFinderson]

That's pretty pathetic. Aren't you a professor of some kind? And you can't manage database research? Just searching for studies of effects of pornography, limited to the last five years, turned up hundreds of citations. And that's just one search in one database.

You're embarrassing yourself, Robin.

I just have google, and honestly, I have never claimed to be 'that kind of professor.' I teach studio practice. I don't have access to LexisNexis.

Interestingly enough, a google search for 'Pornography Science" has a BYU Newsnet article at the top of the list.

[I.J. Reilly]

I remember watching the film "Killing Us Softly" by Jean Kilbourne, way back in the mid nineties. Her thesis is about the effects of advertising on women's self-image, and I find her arguments very compelling. I think the images of women in most advertising are atrocious, and it fuels our culture's obsession with thinness, plastic surgery, the hyper-sexualization of young girls and boys, etc. The insidiousness of advertising is its pervasiveness. I don't support censorship here, but I find portrayals of women in popular media and advertising to be far more damaging than pornography (my personal opinion).

I have seen this movie and disagree with the premise somewhat. Advertising almost exclusively is a mirror to a culture. Very rarely does it create things that did not exist. I do think advertisers have a responsibility to the public, but they also have a responsibility to the client, and if it is determined that the skinny woman sells better than the fat then the agency is almost always going to fulfill its responsibility to the client. The sickness lies in the culture at large, and while advertising may add fuel, it doesn't start the fire.

[RobinFinderson]

Did you even read my post? (sigh)

Yes. The Honor Code Council is not what I mean by help. Neither is a bishop. The guy needs some psychological help. From your description it sounded like BYU treated this as a discipline issue.

[Babs]

I teach studio practice. I don't have access to LexisNexis.

Then try google scholar. It's not Elsevier or WoS, but it's a start.

[wuapinmon]

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...24198/abstract

Article after article after article like this. It goes on and on. If somebody were going to pay my freelance rate, I'd be happy to construct a proper bibliography. In the meantime, there's far too much to try to post a representative sample.

I'd take the Barbie Batgirl avatar over Carly Simon any day.

[Babs]

I'd take the Barbie Batgirl avatar over Carly Simon any day.

you probably think it's about you.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Yes. The Honor Code Council is not what I mean by help. Neither is a bishop. The guy needs some psychological help. From your description it sounded like BYU treated this as a discipline issue.

I am chuckling at the irony here. They give the guy ten freaking chances and yet your knee-jerk reaction is to blast them.

I am close to two people who work in BYU counseling (both very good professionals). I can assure you that they bent over backwards to give this guy therapy, support, and resources. But at some point you have to draw a line in the sand.

[RobinFinderson]

Then try google scholar. It's not Elsevier or WoS, but it's a start.

Do you have a query suggestion?

And why is the research so bloody obscure? The world is interested in pornography. If there is contemporary research that demonstrates half of what you suggest has been researched, it would be cited everywhere... Men's Health, GQ, Wired, etc.

I keep looking and googling and suffering your barbs, but I'm not finding easily discoverable evidence to support your claims. I'll keep looking, but a few LINKS would be greatly appreciated.

[SeattleUte]

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...24198/abstract

Article after article after article like this. It goes on and on. If somebody were going to pay my freelance rate, I'd be happy to construct a proper bibliography. In the meantime, there's far too much to try to post a representative sample.

I'm just trying to frame the issue here. One problem is that this issue is so fraught with gender politics within and outside of religion. There may be "studies" but it's hard to tell if they're reputable or unbiased. I think radical feminists have been dogmatic on this issue. I note that the linked article is from a journal called "Aggressive Behavior." That sounds a little cheesy to me. It's also Canadian.

[Babs]

Do you have a query suggestion?

And why is the research so bloody obscure? The world is interested in pornography. If there is contemporary research that demonstrates half of what you suggest has been researched, it would be cited everywhere... Men's Health, GQ, Wired, etc.

I keep looking and googling and suffering your barbs, but I'm not finding easily discoverable evidence to support your claims. I'll keep looking, but a few LINKS would be greatly appreciated.

sweetheart, I don't know what to tell you. I posted an old link. I posted a new link. I told you how to go find the whole bloody lot of them. It's an incredibly popular research field with voluminous publications.

[wuapinmon]

you probably think it's about you.

No, I think it's about PLD.

[SeattleUte]

I am chuckling at the irony here. They give the guy ten freaking chances and yet your knee-jerk reaction is to blast them.

I am close to two people who work in BYU counseling (both very good professionals). I can assure you that they bent over backwards to give this guy therapy, support, and resources. But at some point you have to draw a line in the sand.

Is this a common problem at BYU? That would be an interesting slice of society to examine. Since porn is (justly or unjustly) demonized there, there are 60,000 people or so working and studying at BYU, and very little real sex going on.

[il Padrino Ute]

What the hell's wrong with people in Utah.

What's wrong with people in Utah? Remember this from a few years ago?

What's wrong with people in Seattle?

[RobinFinderson]

I am chuckling at the irony here. They give the guy ten freaking chances and yet your knee-jerk reaction is to blast them.

I am close to two people who work in BYU counseling (both very good professionals). I can assure you that they bent over backwards to give this guy therapy, support, and resources. But at some point you have to draw a line in the sand.

Well if they did that, then good. They acted responsibly. But the evidence of that wasn't suggested in your original post. My only experience with the HCC was purely disciplinary in nature, so it is difficult for me personally to imagine the HCC handling an issue like this with the delicacy the situation would require.

Nine times IN the computer labs? I remember when I got my internet from BYU, I would catch these screens that would tell me that the site I was trying to visit was deemed pornographic, and that continuing to try to visit it could cause academic trouble. I would get this screen at home and in the computer labs (I wasn't looking for porn at BYU, but some sites that were NOT pornographic still had this warning block).